(January 1, 2017 at 4:50 pm)Astonished Wrote:(January 1, 2017 at 4:41 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Just wanna point out that this has not been my experience at all, growing up in the faith. Im sorry for/to anyone who has had horrible experiences in the faith as a child. But it is important to point out that there are many who's experiences has been very positive, and it isnt right to group us all into the worst possible scenario. I plan on raising my future children up in the faith as I was, if im lucky enough to have any. and I dont plan on anything that is on that list.That's spiffy for you. The point is, when you base life around a book that's akin to rolling the dice to make the decision rather than basing it on a rational consideration of the facts, you're bound to get people like the aforementioned who do such things. While it obviously isn't going to fix every problem, people dropping their faith and getting real will make it impossible for them to get away with this stuff anymore by saying 'it's my belief'. Forcing everyone to have rational justifications for their actions is the only way to make progress, which is why science, not religion, is responsible for every significant positive advancement EVER.
You saying you plan to raise your future children in the faith is such a minefield. While it sounds all fine and dandy to you, to a non-believer you shouldn't be surprised that it sounds like you're planning on lying to them, giving them no choice whatsoever in what they are taught to believe, at a minimum. That's why it's impossible to be comfortable even with this seemingly benign form of irrationality.
Hm cool.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh