(January 10, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't see why there would be any? A person can always act morally, regardless of whether or not they believe in God.
I will say though that there are a few things that I consider immoral that the vast majority of atheists think is perfectly fine. But that doesn't mean they are incapable of it. I've personally known an atheist woman who was of the opinion that premarital sex was immoral and so her and her husband waited until their wedding night. If finding an atheist like that is possible, anything is lol.
That's so weird to me. If you think Jesus will be upset if you bang before marriage, fine, but what other reason could you have for waiting? We're animals. We like sex.
(January 10, 2017 at 12:31 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(January 10, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Aegon Wrote: I think the argument from the other side is more along the lines of, "you can act moral but you can't actually be moral without religion." If you don't believe in God, then the religious will question your motivations, since any proper God-fearing citizen has that to motivate them to do good. Atheists don't have a standard to be judged by. But there's no specific thing you can't do without religion; it's all about intention and motivation.
I disagree with all that, obviously.
For the record, that certainly isn't my argument at all lol.
In fact, I think it's actually less moral to only act moral because you think you'll be "punished" if you don't.
I was certainly painting a broad brush with my post. I've seen that argument plenty of times, especially from Catholics (though I was exposed mostly only to Catholicism when I was younger.)