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Moral Acts
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RE: Moral Acts
(January 10, 2017 at 12:37 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(January 10, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't see why there would be any? A person can always act morally, regardless of whether or not they believe in God.

I will say though that there are a few things that I consider immoral that the vast majority of atheists think is perfectly fine. But that doesn't mean they are incapable of it. I've personally known an atheist woman who was of the opinion that premarital sex was immoral and so her and her husband waited until their wedding night. If finding an atheist like that is possible, anything is lol.

That's so weird to me. If you think Jesus will be upset if you bang before marriage, fine, but what other reason could you have for waiting? We're animals. We like sex.

Yes, but we like lots of sugar and salt and grease as well lol. Liking something doesn't necessarily mean those things are good for us. Or at least good for us outside of their proper context.

But to answer your question, I can definitely see the benefits of waiting for sex without bringing God into the picture. There is 0% chance of contracting or spreading STDs. There is 0% chance of getting pregnant unintentionally and out of wedlock. Contraceptives reduce the risk of both those things, but doesn't take them away completely. One could argue that it isn't very loving to put another person at risk for either of those life changing things. Also, you're saving that part of yourself to give to the person whom you've promise to spend the rest of your life with. Saving this and treating it as an exclusive "gift" to give to a life partner as an expression of your love, commitment, and exclusivity to this person is a very loving and special thing to do, imho.

(January 10, 2017 at 12:37 pm)Aegon Wrote: I was certainly painting a broad brush with my post. I've seen that argument plenty of times, especially from Catholics (though I was exposed mostly only to Catholicism when I was younger.)

Wow, that's very much surprising. I've been taught the opposite of that.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Moral Acts - by chimp3 - January 10, 2017 at 8:37 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 10, 2017 at 8:43 am
RE: Moral Acts - by brewer - January 10, 2017 at 9:03 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 10, 2017 at 9:36 am
RE: Moral Acts - by brewer - January 10, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by RoadRunner79 - January 10, 2017 at 9:08 am
RE: Moral Acts - by bennyboy - January 10, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 10, 2017 at 9:35 am
RE: Moral Acts - by ErGingerbreadMandude - January 11, 2017 at 12:26 am
RE: Moral Acts - by ApeNotKillApe - January 10, 2017 at 12:03 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 10, 2017 at 12:15 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Aegon - January 10, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Aegon - January 10, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 12:52 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 10, 2017 at 1:24 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 10, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 10, 2017 at 1:38 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Catholic_Lady - January 10, 2017 at 1:43 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 10, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by bennyboy - January 10, 2017 at 10:09 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by chimp3 - January 10, 2017 at 10:15 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by bennyboy - January 11, 2017 at 12:23 am
RE: Moral Acts - by ignoramus - January 10, 2017 at 10:54 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by jdrnd - January 10, 2017 at 10:56 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by ignoramus - January 10, 2017 at 11:03 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2017 at 12:48 am
RE: Moral Acts - by chimp3 - January 11, 2017 at 1:04 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 1:09 am
RE: Moral Acts - by chimp3 - January 11, 2017 at 1:19 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2017 at 9:49 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2017 at 10:34 am
RE: Moral Acts - by ApeNotKillApe - January 11, 2017 at 10:39 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: Moral Acts - by chimp3 - January 11, 2017 at 7:43 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 9:36 am
RE: Moral Acts - by LadyForCamus - January 12, 2017 at 10:01 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2017 at 1:25 am
RE: Moral Acts - by chimp3 - January 11, 2017 at 1:31 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 11, 2017 at 1:39 am
RE: Moral Acts - by chimp3 - January 11, 2017 at 6:19 am
RE: Moral Acts - by ErGingerbreadMandude - January 11, 2017 at 6:10 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 11, 2017 at 6:13 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 11, 2017 at 6:21 am
RE: Moral Acts - by chimp3 - January 11, 2017 at 6:26 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 11, 2017 at 6:28 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2017 at 10:43 am
RE: Moral Acts - by ApeNotKillApe - January 11, 2017 at 10:46 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 10:44 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 12:12 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2017 at 1:06 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2017 at 2:04 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 3:18 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2017 at 4:09 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by bennyboy - January 12, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 12, 2017 at 7:00 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by bennyboy - January 12, 2017 at 7:54 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2017 at 2:29 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2017 at 3:11 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 11, 2017 at 2:32 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Catholic_Lady - January 11, 2017 at 2:32 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2017 at 2:41 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2017 at 3:38 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Sterben - January 11, 2017 at 9:37 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2017 at 7:03 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Catholic_Lady - January 12, 2017 at 8:03 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 13, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: Moral Acts - by bennyboy - January 13, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by chimp3 - January 12, 2017 at 11:35 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2017 at 11:50 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 13, 2017 at 12:37 am
RE: Moral Acts - by ignoramus - January 13, 2017 at 12:43 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 13, 2017 at 12:49 am
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2017 at 1:20 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 13, 2017 at 1:30 am
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2017 at 1:37 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 13, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2017 at 1:46 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 13, 2017 at 1:48 am
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2017 at 1:56 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 13, 2017 at 1:56 am
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2017 at 2:03 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 13, 2017 at 2:17 am
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2017 at 2:23 am
RE: Moral Acts - by robvalue - January 13, 2017 at 4:57 am
RE: Moral Acts - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2017 at 5:50 am
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 13, 2017 at 4:50 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by bennyboy - January 13, 2017 at 6:08 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 13, 2017 at 6:25 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by bennyboy - January 13, 2017 at 7:52 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by Neo-Scholastic - January 13, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Moral Acts - by bennyboy - January 13, 2017 at 9:20 pm

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