(May 13, 2017 at 9:05 pm)Lek Wrote:(May 13, 2017 at 6:18 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Let's see, god creates Adam, Doesn't give him the faculty to know right from wrong, but puts that knowledge in the fruit of a tree and tells the man not to eat the fruit.
How exactly does one have free will without knowledge? How is god justified in judging a man for disobeying him when he did not know disobedience was wrong until after he did it?
I'm offering you an opportunity to display your logic. something I so love to do.
First of all, God told Adam directly not to eat of the fruit of that tree and told him he would die if he did. He made it really plain to him. Maybe he didn't know if it was evil but, evil or not, he knew God told him not to do it and what the consequence would be. So he did it and he died. I think the rationale is that he should have had faith that God gave him the command for a specific reason and that he should have had faith in his creator. When he chose to eat the fruit he failed to have that faith. He didn't trust God.
I was offering that opportunity to Steve, but it's just as well that you took it.
Nothing in Adam's world had ever died so he had no concept of death. That wasn't just the tree of the knowledge of evil. It was the knowledge of good and evil. In other words, Adam had no concept that some things were good and some evil. Then the first time he breaks a rule, he gets capital punishment. Would you treat your child like that? Would you treat your dog like that?
"Should have had faith?" I'm going to be generous and pretend like you didn't say that.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.