RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
July 7, 2017 at 5:06 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2017 at 5:08 pm by bennyboy.)
(Not really responding to anyone in particular)
Let's look at the human animal a little more, and at instinct and evolution. It seems to me that among young adults, men are much more likely to use relationships to get sex, and women are more likely to consent to sexual encounters because young men set it as a criterion for continuing the relationship. "Come on, baby. . . if you really loved me. . . " It seems extremely hypocritical to me that a man in this state should not be expected to live up to the post-sex stages of sexual reproduction-- whether he wants to or not. "I was willing to pay for an abortion, but she wouldn't do it, so it's on her now. . . " That's shitty-- just because she has moral or even instinctive reasons not to go through with an abortion doesn't mean she should get a life sentence while he's free as a bird.
In some cases, you just have a couple of people who are so horny they couldn't think straight enough to stop and get a condom, or to plan ahead enough for the girl to get on the pill or whatever. Again, they are both submitting to an extremely strong instinctive drive. Why should one of them get a life sentence for HER logical fail in the face of strong instinct, and he get a pass for his?
Saying "She has control. She could have gotten an abortion or gone on the pill" really isn't fair. Some girls don't have access to abortions. Some are against it for moral or religious reasons, which if she's young have been conditioned in her. Blaming her because she's not enlightened enough to see a fertilized egg as just a bundle of cells isn't a good enough reason for thrusting her into a lifelong commitment to a young human being with no support from anyone. Blaming her because she's let a sexual situation come up when she may not have seen it coming at all isn't fair either-- for sure, the young man has been working very hard to GET that situation to come up.
Nah, fuck that. It DOES take two to tango, and in the case of young people, it probably takes MORE than two to deal with the consequences. Pull that other little fucker out of the dance club, give him a goddamned spatula and a McDonald's cap, and let him start paying for his mistakes in an equal way.
Let's look at the human animal a little more, and at instinct and evolution. It seems to me that among young adults, men are much more likely to use relationships to get sex, and women are more likely to consent to sexual encounters because young men set it as a criterion for continuing the relationship. "Come on, baby. . . if you really loved me. . . " It seems extremely hypocritical to me that a man in this state should not be expected to live up to the post-sex stages of sexual reproduction-- whether he wants to or not. "I was willing to pay for an abortion, but she wouldn't do it, so it's on her now. . . " That's shitty-- just because she has moral or even instinctive reasons not to go through with an abortion doesn't mean she should get a life sentence while he's free as a bird.
In some cases, you just have a couple of people who are so horny they couldn't think straight enough to stop and get a condom, or to plan ahead enough for the girl to get on the pill or whatever. Again, they are both submitting to an extremely strong instinctive drive. Why should one of them get a life sentence for HER logical fail in the face of strong instinct, and he get a pass for his?
Saying "She has control. She could have gotten an abortion or gone on the pill" really isn't fair. Some girls don't have access to abortions. Some are against it for moral or religious reasons, which if she's young have been conditioned in her. Blaming her because she's not enlightened enough to see a fertilized egg as just a bundle of cells isn't a good enough reason for thrusting her into a lifelong commitment to a young human being with no support from anyone. Blaming her because she's let a sexual situation come up when she may not have seen it coming at all isn't fair either-- for sure, the young man has been working very hard to GET that situation to come up.
Nah, fuck that. It DOES take two to tango, and in the case of young people, it probably takes MORE than two to deal with the consequences. Pull that other little fucker out of the dance club, give him a goddamned spatula and a McDonald's cap, and let him start paying for his mistakes in an equal way.
