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White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
(August 14, 2017 at 12:25 pm)Kosh Wrote:
(August 14, 2017 at 10:44 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Didn't robert e lee have the same views about blacks and slavery as Lincoln?

Even if that is true..  Does that matter?  It almost makes it worse that he couldn't be bothered to stand up for what he thought was right regarding slavery.

And you think Lincoln declared war on the south to stand up against slavery? You think rescuing the slaves for their own sake was any sort of motivation for him?

I just dont see how it makes sense to take down the statue of a man who opposed slavery (yet didn't fight against it) when we have statues of men who supported it and even owned them.

Quote from President Lincoln:

Quote:“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

I mean, we may as well take down his statues too if we're gonna be taking down Lee.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville - by Catholic_Lady - August 14, 2017 at 12:45 pm

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