(August 18, 2017 at 12:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(August 18, 2017 at 12:30 pm)Brian37 Wrote: CL seriously, who cares?
Nazis are still nothing to glorify nor was slavery. Whatever empathy you think you have does not negate the evil of those ideologies. Our Neo Nazis support the attack on western values. White nationalism is not a reflection of western pluralism. The KKK ALSO is not a reflection of pluralism.
I cannot see both sides. PERIOD.
The only place Nazis and Slavery have any place in is a museum of what not to do to your fellow human being.
I said we shouldn't label *everyone* on the statues side as racist. If you see what I wrote in parenthesis, this does not apply to the supremacists, who are very clear about their feelings towards non whites.
You keep missing my point. It does not matter. If you show up with others whom are bigoted, and you fail to see in any case that those statues were not put up as history lessons but DID glorify a horrible institution, then you are coddling that horrible history.
"I am not like the others" is a dodge. If you are on the right side of history, then you seek to put those icons in proper context without glorifying them. Our American Neo Nazis and Our KKK, see those icons as justification as a social pecking order based on race. If you don't agree, then you should be able to figure out what the right thing to do is.
And again, if you think there is nothing wrong with leaving those statues where they are at, ask a Jew if they would find it ok to leave statues of Rommel or Goebbles or Hitler in Germany today? Not acceptable? I agree, so that is how blacks feel about Slavery.
Moving those icons is not an attempt to gloss over history or ignore history, but to put them in proper context, in that the message should be, "Don't do this to your fellow human being." We can teach those events in Museums and History classes without glorifying those events.
"Heritage" is not a valid excuse to leave them there. So again, "I am not a bigot" is not my point. I don't care if you as an individual are not, others are and Nazis and KKK and Slavery are not to be glorified.
I really don't know how more clear I can make that.
Those icons can be moved to Museums without being glorified.