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[Serious] America can you pls stop meddling in countries you have no busienss in.
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America can you pls stop meddling in countries you have no busienss in.


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RE: America can you pls stop meddling in countries you have no busienss in.
That's fine. Then don't complain when we don't "meddle". And things go down the shitter. By this logic, imagine for a few seconds what would have happened if the United States said "fuck you, you're on your own" to Europe during World War 2. 

I dislike American intervention as much as the next guy. And yes, I'm an American. But again, don't complain and blame us when things go downhill. Lots of us don't want to see our taxes being wasted on another country when we have plenty of our own problems back home. 

Oh yeah, don't expect us to take in immigrants when things in said country go down the shitter either if you have this attitude.
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(March 24, 2019 at 4:38 am)Equinox25 Wrote: That's fine. Then don't complain when we don't "meddle". And things go down the shitter. By this logic, imagine for a few seconds what would have happened if the United States said "fuck you, you're on your own" to Europe during World War 2. 

I dislike American intervention as much as the next guy. And yes, I'm an American. But again, don't complain and blame us when things go downhill. Lots of us don't want to see our taxes being wasted on another country when we have plenty of our own problems back home. 

Oh yeah, don't expect us to take in immigrants when things in said country go down the shitter either if you have this attitude.

There is meddling and there is assistance. The two are not the same. 
In left leaning countries the US has a long history, particularly in South America, of destablalising the regimes and trying to install right wing ones.

They would rather the left wing countries burn than have an example of a good one close to home.
That is meddling.

Then you have countries that the US have already fucked up like Iraq and Afghanistan, they go in screw everything up then leave with no help. Those countries need assistance.

Then there are countries that have humanitarian issues, again they need assistance.

There is a difference and Britain can do it. Just learn where the boundaries lie.



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RE: America can you pls stop meddling in countries you have no busienss in.
Our cold war inheritance.  I don't know that the UK can really be pointed at as an exemplar of assistance or even if it's in a position to lend assistance to anyone, especially now.

US states single-handedly crush national economies, and we have the largest effective military and foreign aid apparatus in the world...possibly the largest the world has ever seen.  That does amplify the effect of our mistakes (as well as our intentional fuckery), ofc.   I don't personally take the tack that other countries shouldn't complain..they're going to complain, someone would complain even if we were saints with pure motives.  That's just something we have to accept if we want to attempt to be the good guys™ in any conflict or disagreement, that to someone we will always be the bad guy, no matter what.  

Even when it comes to iraq and afghanistan, it's not really that we didn't provide assistance.  We did.  More that the ratio of assistance to "other than" was far too high.  We need to work on that ratio, still...for all of our flaws and mistakes, and there will always be flaws and mistakes..it's hard to argue that the united states hasn't been a net good.  Thusfar, at least, lol, there's always tomorrow.
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"Fuck the USA!" if we interfere.

"Fuck the USA!" if we don't interfere.

Fuck the people who say "Fuck the USA."
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The relative stability of world trade is basically the result of US meddling. I sometimes think that maybe the relative stability of global trade is perhaps not such a good thing, since it requires us to maintain a massively expensive global military presence and makes it possible for some developed nations to behave like our spoiled children (Europe, I'm looking at you.)

But in our own western hemisphere, we have been atrocious. We haven't been very helpful to our western hemisphere neighbors, and every time a western hemisphere nation takes a sharp turn to the left, we resolutely undermine it in pretty much every way that we can. We will help their wealthy elite export their wealth. We will encourage Saudi Arabia to bump up oil production to undermine global oil prices. We will menace them so that they have to increase their military spending. We will fund the efforts of their various internal adversaries. We will certify the results of corrupt elections that went our way and denounce the results of clean elections that didn't go our way. We destroy them in every underhanded way, and we are masters at that. The target nation doesn't stand a chance. And after we have destroyed them, we hold them up as an example of the failure of socialism.

It's mindblowingly unintelligent. We have an actual need to understand socialism better, and that can't happen as long as we keep undermining it. When Hugo Chavez turned his country sharply to the left, we should have helped him make it work instead of undermining it. We would have learned so much more that way.
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The US tries to dominate the world financially and with control of natural resources. The military industrial complex only gets fed with perpetual war. I love my country and the US Constitution but not too happy about what is going on right now (foreign and domestic).
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You'll be happy to know that COMMUNIST China is taking over from us.
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There is a time and place to interfere and time and place to back off and no I don't there should ever be a time refugees should be turned away .

Quote: I dislike American intervention as much as the next guy. And yes, I'm an American. But again, don't complain and blame us when things go downhill. 
Accept plenty of times it's directly America's fault that things went south in the first place

(March 24, 2019 at 6:13 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You'll be happy to know that COMMUNIST China is taking over from us.

So other countries should be happy to have to choose between the United States or China lording over them
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Strawman much?
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