(August 21, 2017 at 9:23 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:(August 21, 2017 at 7:51 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: See this is what I mean.... rather than making your case, and letting that stand for what it's worth. You start out by focusing on the person, and name calling. Then you try to make out like I'm defending slavery (which couldn't be further from the truth). As I said, I'm open to hearing from both sides. And if the only reason for, is to honor those who fought to keep slavery, then I think that is a fast sinking ship. But as I mentioned, if it is only about slavery and oppression of black people, then I think these where poor choices. But this type of crap that you are trying to pull here only weakens the point you are trying to make, it doesn't aid it.
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The bold was the point. The fact that you only see it as "focusing on the person, and name-calling" could definitely be described as a sub-point, though.
I'd agree he made some statements, which I think could have some backing. However I think the other things only serve at best to distract, and at worst, less honerable motives. I also don't think that for most people in current times they are advocating slavery, or even necessarily racism, with these statues. Some may be, and that is to be taken into consideration I have known some racist people, and don't think any where advocating or glorifying slavery. I also don't think it is all about racism for many either. I just don't think that making anyone who questions him out as a racist is very useful, and may work against those who do.
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