(November 2, 2017 at 10:34 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(November 2, 2017 at 10:30 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: Then your non hedonistic values are also just a premise as well.Sure, and?
Quote:That all goes back to what I said earlier. There are those types of situations which we know are true such as the fact that, if I drink poison, that would be lethal to me. But then there are other types of situations where there is no proving who is right and who is wrong. These types of situations are where we just argue back and forth and it just gets nowhere.-and then there are times when we realize that our premise is self defeating and rush to burn the earth. "If I can't be right then no one can!"
Your stubborn inability to move beyond a failed argument or flawed point is in no way indicative of the inaccessibility of knowledge in this or any other subject.
It's about the truth though and not just about gaining knowledge. This type of knowledge would not lead to any sort of realization of truth. It's just trying on something new and going from there to see how it works for you. I would definitely see how non hedonistic values work out for me, but they have to be real values for me. I would pay close attention deep inside and see if they are real values in my life. After all, I talked about the inner universe being the most vital and precious thing since that is the very source of perceiving value in the first place.