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Travis Walton versus The Resurrection.
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RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection.
(November 18, 2017 at 2:10 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(November 16, 2017 at 8:59 pm)Jehanne Wrote: How is his testimony any different than Paul's?
  Paul was inspired by God through the Holy Spirit. this man claims to have been abducted by aliens that can't possibly have traveled the distance it would take to get hear. We know of no planets that are habitual by beings like to us. If it were possible to reach earth from some where in the galaxy why in the world would they try to keep things a secret, why would they let people go to tell about them if they wanted to remain unnoticed. I mean really how hard can it be to see this man is either a glory seeker or a nut.
GC

What makes Walton's story implausible is not that we didn't discover aliens but the story he says and his character as a swindler. On the other hand Paul's "world" is actually without any evidence. Paul belied that there were actually seven spherical layers of heaven above the firmament (which extended from the earth to the moon): Mercury, Venus, the Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, (not always in that order), and above them all, the sphere of the stars. Each was filled with all manner of physical things: trees, gardens, rivers, palaces - everything you could find on earth you could find in heaven. In fact, everything on earth was merely the imperfect copy and shadow of the real things in the heavens, and as you ascended from heaven to higher heaven, the more real and perfect things became, the closer you drew to God. Paul even claims in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 he knows a guy who "was taken as far up as the third heaven," where he heard "things that are not to be told, that no mortal is permitted to repeat"

Now today this is the definition of a nut.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 11, 2017 at 1:44 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by vorlon13 - November 11, 2017 at 2:09 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Fake Messiah - November 12, 2017 at 2:06 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 12, 2017 at 12:39 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Fake Messiah - November 12, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Whateverist - November 22, 2017 at 9:22 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Ravenshire - November 12, 2017 at 2:32 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by chimp3 - November 12, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 12, 2017 at 6:43 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by chimp3 - November 12, 2017 at 6:45 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Joods - November 12, 2017 at 6:50 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 12, 2017 at 6:51 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Joods - November 12, 2017 at 6:59 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 12, 2017 at 8:16 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by John V - November 12, 2017 at 9:49 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 12, 2017 at 10:10 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by chimp3 - November 16, 2017 at 8:02 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Minimalist - November 12, 2017 at 9:56 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by John V - November 13, 2017 at 7:15 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 13, 2017 at 8:18 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by John V - November 13, 2017 at 8:58 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Minimalist - November 13, 2017 at 12:48 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Grandizer - November 22, 2017 at 6:20 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 13, 2017 at 9:31 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by John V - November 13, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Godscreated - November 16, 2017 at 12:04 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 16, 2017 at 8:59 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Godscreated - November 18, 2017 at 2:10 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Fake Messiah - November 18, 2017 at 2:49 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 18, 2017 at 3:16 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Godscreated - November 18, 2017 at 3:48 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Fake Messiah - November 18, 2017 at 4:22 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Succubus - November 18, 2017 at 5:34 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by downbeatplumb - November 18, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Godscreated - November 20, 2017 at 3:05 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 20, 2017 at 9:03 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Fake Messiah - November 21, 2017 at 7:15 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Godscreated - November 22, 2017 at 5:04 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Harry Nevis - November 22, 2017 at 8:52 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 22, 2017 at 9:30 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Harry Nevis - November 21, 2017 at 9:11 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by downbeatplumb - November 22, 2017 at 3:10 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Godscreated - November 23, 2017 at 2:06 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 23, 2017 at 7:00 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by downbeatplumb - November 23, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 23, 2017 at 2:03 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Godscreated - November 24, 2017 at 1:25 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by downbeatplumb - November 24, 2017 at 1:02 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 24, 2017 at 1:25 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by LostLocke - November 24, 2017 at 2:17 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Godscreated - November 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by downbeatplumb - November 25, 2017 at 2:14 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Godscreated - November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by downbeatplumb - November 27, 2017 at 2:24 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Godscreated - November 29, 2017 at 4:59 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by downbeatplumb - November 29, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 19, 2017 at 4:36 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by downbeatplumb - November 18, 2017 at 9:38 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Jehanne - November 21, 2017 at 8:08 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Sal - November 21, 2017 at 8:49 am
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by JackRussell - November 27, 2017 at 4:05 pm
RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. - by Angrboda - November 29, 2017 at 8:21 pm

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