RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection.
November 18, 2017 at 3:48 pm
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2017 at 4:02 pm by Godscreated.)
(November 18, 2017 at 3:16 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(November 18, 2017 at 2:10 am)Godscreated Wrote: Paul was inspired by God through the Holy Spirit. this man claims to have been abducted by aliens that can't possibly have traveled the distance it would take to get hear. We know of no planets that are habitual by beings like to us. If it were possible to reach earth from some where in the galaxy why in the world would they try to keep things a secret, why would they let people go to tell about them if they wanted to remain unnoticed. I mean really how hard can it be to see this man is either a glory seeker or a nut.
GC
Your "reasoning" is circular. How do you know that Paul was inspired as opposed to being just another 1st-century loon? Why not just say that he was just another nutjob like Travis Walton, except 2,000 years earlier in time?
Because what Paul taught us about God has been experienced by me, revealed by the Holy Spirit. I have found what Paul said to be true in my life. Paul never claimed to have seen space ships that couldn't have made a journey across the galaxy, he did claim to experience the supernatural God and creator of the universe as billions have over the last 2000 years.
GC
(November 18, 2017 at 9:38 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(November 16, 2017 at 12:04 am)Godscreated Wrote: [quote pid='1655059' dateline='1510422268']
I just plain ol' do not believe it.
That's how I feel about all religion.
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It's your right, given to you by the God you reject.
GC
(November 18, 2017 at 2:49 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(November 18, 2017 at 2:10 am)Godscreated Wrote: Paul was inspired by God through the Holy Spirit. this man claims to have been abducted by aliens that can't possibly have traveled the distance it would take to get hear. We know of no planets that are habitual by beings like to us. If it were possible to reach earth from some where in the galaxy why in the world would they try to keep things a secret, why would they let people go to tell about them if they wanted to remain unnoticed. I mean really how hard can it be to see this man is either a glory seeker or a nut.
GC
What makes Walton's story implausible is not that we didn't discover aliens but the story he says and his character as a swindler. On the other hand Paul's "world" is actually without any evidence. Paul belied that there were actually seven spherical layers of heaven above the firmament (which extended from the earth to the moon): Mercury, Venus, the Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, (not always in that order), and above them all, the sphere of the stars. Each was filled with all manner of physical things: trees, gardens, rivers, palaces - everything you could find on earth you could find in heaven. In fact, everything on earth was merely the imperfect copy and shadow of the real things in the heavens, and as you ascended from heaven to higher heaven, the more real and perfect things became, the closer you drew to God. Paul even claims in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 he knows a guy who "was taken as far up as the third heaven," where he heard "things that are not to be told, that no mortal is permitted to repeat"
Now today this is the definition of a nut.
Seems you know things about Paul others do not, then it could be that you know nothing about what he teaches. Tell me this, you should have the answer since you seem to know all about what the Bible teaches. Why did the writer of Genesis know that the stars were innumerable when only about 6000 stars are visible to the human eye? The ancient people knew that the stars were numerable because they studied them, they were more observable of the stars then they the common man of today even with all our knowledge. Most people do not know that only 6000 stars are visible with the naked eye.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.