(November 22, 2017 at 5:04 am)Godscreated Wrote:(November 21, 2017 at 7:15 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: What the fuck are you talking about? In book of Genesis stars during the making are only mentioned "he made the stars also." Then the next time stars are mentioned in book of Genesis is when god is saying to Abram "Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them" and Abram apparently counted them because the later verse goes "And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness."
God told Abraham that his descendants would be as innumerable as the stars, the whole of the Israelites came from him and so did the Arab nations, way more than 6000.
Abraham trusted God and believed that there were more than the 6000 or so stars that could be seen with the naked eye. Abraham's righteousness as you have shown came from believing what God told him not what he could see.
GC
(November 20, 2017 at 9:03 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I think that Jesus was a Jewish apocalyptic prophet who started life in northern Galilee, but after preaching the end of the world and the deliverance by god from the Romans by the "Son of Man" (likely, an angelic being), he was encouraged by his followers to take his message to Jerusalem. Shortly after arriving, Jesus went to the Temple, and after hearing him, some Jews took offense; there was an altercation, and Jesus was promptly arrested by the Roman authorities. They examined him, and likely found him to be a deranged individual; after consulting with the local Jewish authorities (Roman federalism), Jesus was deemed a threat to the public order. Pilate signed the order (likely, without ever meeting Jesus personally), and a Roman guard administered his punishment. Once dead Jesus' body was removed from the cross and deposed of in a common grave, likely, being mutilated by wild dogs.
The rest of Jesus' story is legend and embellishment. i don't believe that he ever said anything close to what you are claiming.
Where did you get your information, I know it wasn't from the Bible. Made up stories are an atheist specialty and you seem to excel at this. read the Bible it will tell you all you need to know about Jesus and His life.
GC
I do not believe that the Gospel of John contains a single saying of the historical Jesus. I think that the Gospel of Thomas does, however, contain some historical sayings of Jesus. Do you agree? If not, why not?
