RE: Travis Walton versus The Resurrection.
November 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm
(This post was last modified: November 25, 2017 at 12:55 pm by Godscreated.)
(November 24, 2017 at 2:17 pm)LostLocke Wrote:(November 24, 2017 at 1:25 am)Godscreated Wrote: What you want to believe doesn't make it the truth.I agree with that statement, but keep in mind it's a two way street.
If Jehovah exists, and 100% of the population doesn't believe in him, he still exists.
If Jehovah doesn't exist, and 100% of the population does believe in him, he still doesn't exist.
You would be correct in your statement and I understand what you mean by it. The thing for me is I know without a doubt God exists, the way He has worked in my life leaves no doubts, things have come about that would rule out coincidence and things that would have been impossible for me to imagine or manipulate into being. I'm not easily convinced about things and will doubt unless I can prove to myself things are as they are or seem to be.
GC
(November 24, 2017 at 1:02 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(November 24, 2017 at 1:25 am)Godscreated Wrote: What you want to believe doesn't make it the truth. As far as having Sunday free, I do to, God made the day for man to rest and take time to worship Him.
GC
I don't "not want to not believe in god" I just don't.
That actually seems like a statement that is steeped in doubt, with a desire not to know. I say this without regard to the rest of your post.
dbp Wrote:You seem to think that I made a choice not think that god is real, that at some point I thought that I would reject the idea after at some point believing.
That isn't what happened.
You had to make a choice no matter what you might think is or isn't true, I had no idea whether you ever believed or not. No one just doesn't believe all people from past experiences form an opinion through those experiences in life.
dbp Wrote:I had heard of god and found it silly right from the get go at no point did the idea seem like one that I could deem a possibility.
What have you found to be silly in the past that you now know to be true. Without an investigation into God there is no way for you to form an opinion He doesn't exist, it's an unfounded opinion that no one will take seriously. The word I put in bold above (seem) shows you have no real idea whether God is real or not.
dbp Wrote:Think of a silly idea that you instinctively think is stupid and not worthy of your time, whatever that thing is, that's how god is to me.
Actually I do not take things instinctively for the most part, I'm naturally curious. I use to believe that UFOs were true because I thought I saw one as a young person, it scared me and I ran home. After getting home I began to question what I had seen but didn't quit believing until years later. Investigating the possibilities of UFOs over the years and the distances they would have to travel led me to understand they were not possible. The same goes for evolution.
dbp Wrote:I do some good stuff on sunday its 12k run and airsoft day.
I do not think I said anything about doing good things on Sundays and I did say it was a day of rest and worship. 12ks and airsoft are neither one. I know you consider them fun but good in the sense of doing for other is not part of doing good.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.