(November 24, 2017 at 1:02 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't "not want to not believe in god" I just don't.
(November 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm)Godscreated Wrote: That actually seems like a statement that is steeped in doubt, with a desire not to know. I say this without regard to the rest of your post.
Well then you've read it wrong. What it means is that I find the concept of god to be childish, like believing that you have a real relationship with your action man.
And I don't believe it. I don't have a choice. I just don't.
I'll give you a challenge.
Stop believing in god for a minute.
If its a choice you should be able to start believing again once the minute is up.
Now...go..
How that work out for ya.
dbp Wrote:You seem to think that I made a choice not think that god is real, that at some point I thought that I would reject the idea after at some point believing.
That isn't what happened.
(November 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm)Godscreated Wrote: You had to make a choice no matter what you might think is or isn't true, I had no idea whether you ever believed or not. No one just doesn't believe all people from past experiences form an opinion through those experiences in life.
My opinion is that gods are unbelievabl;e rubbish
dbp Wrote:I had heard of god and found it silly right from the get go at no point did the idea seem like one that I could deem a possibility.
(November 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm)Godscreated Wrote: What have you found to be silly in the past that you now know to be true. Without an investigation into God there is no way for you to form an opinion He doesn't exist, it's an unfounded opinion that no one will take seriously. The word I put in bold above (seem) shows you have no real idea whether God is real or not.
What should I investigate?
What is a god?
What is it made of?
What does it look like?
Where did it come from?
I could go on but you get the general idea.
At the moment all I have heard of god are fairy tales and ill thought out "arguments" that all fail.
Its like asking me to study santa because you are sure he's true.
dbp Wrote:Think of a silly idea that you instinctively think is stupid and not worthy of your time, whatever that thing is, that's how god is to me.
(November 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Actually I do not take things instinctively for the most part, I'm naturally curious. I use to believe that UFOs were true because I thought I saw one as a young person, it scared me and I ran home. After getting home I began to question what I had seen but didn't quit believing until years later. Investigating the possibilities of UFOs over the years and the distances they would have to travel led me to understand they were not possible.
Not impossible, just very very improbable but finally some sense. Well done.
(November 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm)Godscreated Wrote: The same goes for evolution.
And instantly you ruin it by actually gong against all available evidence.
I just posted an article where speciation had actually been documented in the wild in birds for the first time. You are so wrong it just isn't funny
Strange how it seems to be americans who cling to the old stories and ignore the facts.
dbp Wrote:I do some good stuff on sunday its 12k run and airsoft day.
(November 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I do not think I said anything about doing good things on Sundays and I did say it was a day of rest and worship. 12ks and airsoft are neither one. I know you consider them fun but good in the sense of doing for other is not part of doing good.
GC
Going to church is not "doing good" its just wasting time unless they serve a good coffee and have an active social calendar, in which case its a club.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.