(November 27, 2017 at 2:24 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: Sure you have a choice, you just do not want to admit it because that would make you responsible for your eternal destination. God will show all why they had a choice and that they actually recognized they did, this will be done at the Judgement.
I don't believe in god for exactly the same reason I don't believe in santa. Is that clear enough for you?
I understand what you are trying to say it's been clear from the get go, I just do not accept it. I know what the Omniscient God of the universe says and according to Him you are wrong.
(November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: Can't ignore what I already know to be real and truthful and it would be stupid to try. You want to deal with me as though you were Satan himself and it want work because god protects those who are His and I am one of those.
dbp Wrote:And I know that god is a stupid idea and can't ignore that.
Ignoring God is exactly what you are doing and it want fly at the Judgement.
(November 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm)Godscreated Wrote: You had to make a choice no matter what you might think is or isn't true, I had no idea whether you ever believed or not. No one just doesn't believe all people from past experiences form an opinion through those experiences in life.
(November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: At least you tell the truth about this, saying it's your opinion. If you do not come to accept Christ you will find that I have been honest with you when you die. Just remember once a persons life is over there are no choices.
dbp Wrote:There is nothing when a person dies. That's it game over man!
Life after death is like saying theres pizza after pizza.
No there isn't.
I suppose you have proof there's no afterlife? Sure there's pizza after pizza all you have to do is open the next box.
(November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: The Bible is a good place to start and a local church can be of great help.
God is the all powerful creator and savior of this world.
dbp Wrote:I don't think that that is correct.
You better be sure.
(November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: God is spirit, outside of that I can not say.
dbp Wrote:"Spirit" is not a thing.
That is how God describes Himself to us, it's so we can have some kind of understanding that He is not like us.
(November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: God has no beginning, He has always existed.
dbp Wrote:Prove it.
This is what God has said and I believe it because He has never lied to me.
(November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: He did not come from anywhere, He has always existed everywhere.
dbp Wrote:Then so could the universe negating the requirement for a god.
The universe requires a creator and that is God.
(November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: What you have heard are stories of the only God and what He is capable of. How could you know if an argument about God is ill thought out, you know nothing of Him.
dbp Wrote:Indeed. And the more I hear the more stupid it sounds.
That's because you desire it, too.
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dbp Wrote:And instantly you ruin it by actually gong against all available evidence.
I just posted an article where speciation had actually been documented in the wild in birds for the first time. You are so wrong it just isn't funny
Strange how it seems to be americans who cling to the old stories and ignore the facts.
(November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: Strange how people who claim to be logical can fool themselves into believing there is evidence of evolution when none has ever been presented, I did not read the article you posted but i'm sure I know what it's about, guess what those birds are still birds, just because different birds can breed with each other doesn't mean evolution has taken place.
I suppose you would call all the different breeds of dogs different species, yet ever one of them can breed with each other and any of the wild dogs. Wolves and coyotes have been doing so for a long time. By the way if those islands are so isolated how is it that this one bird made it there, bet that never occurred to you did it and since it did how many others have made it over the last few thousand years. I'm not going to argue evolution in this thread I have done it in others and it leads to nothing.
dbp Wrote:This shows that you do not understand evolution so it probably is pointless to argue with you on it, I know how it works has been explained to you time and time again and you just don't get it.
I understand the theory just fine. I find it lacking in many ways and I can see faults in it. At least i take the time to study the theory, I'm sure you can't say the same about Christianity.
dbp Wrote:Going to church is not "doing good" its just wasting time unless they serve a good coffee and have an active social calendar, in which case its a club.
(November 27, 2017 at 7:42 am)Godscreated Wrote: Going to church to worship God is a good thing even though you can't comprehend it. Much good is received by those who are sincere in their worship of God and their fellowship with their fellow Christians.
GC
dbp Wrote:Well I'm glad you enjoy it.
To me going to church is the most odious tedium every time I've been dragged there. Makes me yawn just thinking of it.
That's because you do not care about learning about the God who has given you life.
GC
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.