(November 14, 2017 at 8:09 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:(November 14, 2017 at 4:32 pm)shadow Wrote: Well, it's sort of the topic of this thread to reconsider Bill Clinton based on current events. Nothing should objectively change after Wienstein if we're not comparing.
Secondly, what I'm getting at is that he was impeached for lying to the public about having sexual relations with that woman, right? Trump lies to the public all the time and he has most certainly had sexual relations with many women. What makes one impeachable and the other electable?
Lol, some people think of a way to tie trump into everything. If we all got to excuse our behavior by comparing it to Trump, the lot of us would be up for Nobel prizes. I'd say it has limited relevance, other than as an easy way to change topic and excuse the behavior of those we selectively endorse. Perhap there is nothing wrong with Weinstein either, if you are going to compare him with trump.
Okay, I'll explain where I'm coming from with my view. My frame of reference for the behaviour of presidents includes
1)Obama
2)Trump
The rest is history for me.
I'm not even American so I don't know much about all the scandals that other past presidents have had. But given this sample size, Clinton's actions don't stand out as particularly unpresidential behaviour. Whether or not it's the intended topic for this thread, the distinction is something I seriously don't get.
As for whether this is acceptable behaviour... uh, hell no. As a young woman myself, this kind of stuff is highly disturbing, but there seems to be a weird underbelly of society (including multiple American presidents) that accepts it. I see what you're saying about comparisons, though. Doesn't change whether it's right or not, but it does freak me out a bit that America still elected Trump with his history. Impeachment is a punishment; election is a reward. That's all.
