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Az Lawmaker introduces scary bill.
January 30, 2021 at 9:15 am
Hopefully there are enough sane people in that state house that will slap this shit down quickly. But this is where we are as a Nation.
It basically wants to have the power to override election officials and toss out results, even if certified.
Basically, the GOP wants the power to toss out results that do not benefit them.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politic...t-n1256097
Nope, no fascism there.
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RE: Az Lawmaker introduces scary bill.
January 30, 2021 at 9:52 am
But...but..but...
When I commented that Biden lied by saying he would represent everyone - I got shit on.....
Are you saying politicians might not have the interests of EVERYONE in mind - but act out of self interest?
Seems you should just trust those duly elected representatives to take care of such things... [/sarcasm]
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RE: Az Lawmaker introduces scary bill.
January 30, 2021 at 11:02 am
(January 30, 2021 at 9:52 am)onlinebiker Wrote: But...but..but...
When I commented that Biden lied by saying he would represent everyone - I got shit on.....
Are you saying politicians might not have the interests of EVERYONE in mind - but act out of self interest?
Seems you should just trust those duly elected representatives to take care of such things... [/sarcasm]
No, that isn't a bill that covers everyone. This isn't like a law against drunk driving, or speeding, that applies to everyone. This isn't a law that allows heterosexual marriage and same sex marriage. This is a law that is designed to lock in power to one party.
Elections are about competing for votes. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Name me one President in the past 50 years, or Presidential candidate that didn't eventually concede and congratulate the winner? That law is basically saying they don't trust the voters.
This is about the GOP trying to move the country to a fascist state, because those old white men who run the party fear shifting demographics. Instead of trying to cheat, they should adapt, and come up with new ideas to compete with. They have no new ideas, so this is all they have left.
Some politicians do act out of self interests, but you are not going to get away with the fallacy of equivocation. The two parties are NOT the same.
It wasn't in Hillary's interests for Biden to certify Trump's win in 2016, nor was it a benefit to Democrats when VP Biden certified Trump as the winner in 16, but he did his job. It also was not in VP Pence's interest to certify Biden as the winner, but he did his job, and for doing that, Pence became a target for murder.
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RE: Az Lawmaker introduces scary bill.
January 30, 2021 at 11:13 am
(January 30, 2021 at 11:02 am)Brian37 Wrote: (January 30, 2021 at 9:52 am)onlinebiker Wrote: But...but..but...
When I commented that Biden lied by saying he would represent everyone - I got shit on.....
Are you saying politicians might not have the interests of EVERYONE in mind - but act out of self interest?
Seems you should just trust those duly elected representatives to take care of such things... [/sarcasm]
No, that isn't a bill that covers everyone. This isn't like a law against drunk driving, or speeding, that applies to everyone. This isn't a law that allows heterosexual marriage and same sex marriage. This is a law that is designed to lock in power to one party.
Elections are about competing for votes. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Name me one President in the past 50 years, or Presidential candidate that didn't eventually concede and congratulate the winner? That law is basically saying they don't trust the voters.
This is about the GOP trying to move the country to a fascist state, because those old white men who run the party fear shifting demographics. Instead of trying to cheat, they should adapt, and come up with new ideas to compete with. They have no new ideas, so this is all they have left.
Some politicians do act out of self interests, but you are not going to get away with the fallacy of equivocation. The two parties are NOT the same.
It wasn't in Hillary's interests for Biden to certify Trump's win in 2016, nor was it a benefit to Democrats when VP Biden certified Trump as the winner in 16, but he did his job. It also was not in VP Pence's interest to certify Biden as the winner, but he did his job, and for doing that, Pence became a target for murder.
Why the bloody fuck do you delude youself with notions that one political party is any better than any other - especially considering that not only the players buut the party platforms routinely change 180 degrees?
Do you think the members are different species?
Sorry... It's all humans. Fucked up, damaged, deluded humans.
You ain't special. Neither is your politics.
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RE: Az Lawmaker introduces scary bill.
January 30, 2021 at 3:58 pm
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2021 at 4:14 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:But...but..but...
When I commented that Biden lied by saying he would represent everyone - I got shit on.....
Are you saying politicians might not have the interests of EVERYONE in mind - but act out of self interest?
Seems you should just trust those duly elected representatives to take care of such things... [/sarcasm]
Except he didn't lie. That's just what he's trying to do, And stopping election results from being tossed out is ultimately in everyone's interest.
Quote:Why the bloody fuck do you delude youself with notions that one political party is any better than any other - especially considering that not only the players buut the party platforms routinely change 180 degrees?
Because one literally is better than the other.
Quote:Do you think the members are different species?
Sorry... It's all humans. Fucked up, damaged, deluded humans.
You ain't special. Neither is your politics.
You realize one grouping of humans can be better than another and it doesn't need to be special to be better.
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RE: Az Lawmaker introduces scary bill.
January 30, 2021 at 4:09 pm
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It's not exactly hard to be better than a white supremacist party, OLB. Similarly, even though all humans are human, we're not all white supremacists.
How important is the belief that both parties and all people are the same, to you?
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RE: Az Lawmaker introduces scary bill.
January 30, 2021 at 4:12 pm
(January 30, 2021 at 4:09 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's not exactly hard to be better than a white supremacist party, OLB. Similarly, even though all humans are human, we're not all white supremacists.
How important is the belief that both parties and all people are the same, to you? It's the foundation of his cynicism and his "fuck everything mindset"
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RE: Az Lawmaker introduces scary bill.
January 30, 2021 at 5:48 pm
(January 30, 2021 at 11:13 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Why the bloody fuck do you delude youself with notions that one political party is any better than any other - especially considering that not only the players buut the party platforms routinely change 180 degrees?
Do you think the members are different species?
Sorry... It's all humans. Fucked up, damaged, deluded humans.
You ain't special. Neither is your politics.
Presumably, you're human too. So this means for all this acting like you're better than others bullshit, you're really not.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: Az Lawmaker introduces scary bill.
January 30, 2021 at 7:44 pm
(January 30, 2021 at 5:48 pm)Divinity Wrote: (January 30, 2021 at 11:13 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Why the bloody fuck do you delude youself with notions that one political party is any better than any other - especially considering that not only the players buut the party platforms routinely change 180 degrees?
Do you think the members are different species?
Sorry... It's all humans. Fucked up, damaged, deluded humans.
You ain't special. Neither is your politics.
Presumably, you're human too. So this means for all this acting like you're better than others bullshit, you're really not.
You're right.
I am not better than anyone else. I never claimed otherwise.
But I'm smart enough to know that the differences in partys are dwarfed by their simularity of purpose - to get and retain power.
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RE: Az Lawmaker introduces scary bill.
January 30, 2021 at 7:50 pm
Quote:You're right.
I am not better than anyone else. I never claimed otherwise.
No, you just drag everyone else down to your level of shittiness
Quote:But I'm smart enough to know that the differences in partys are dwarfed by their simularity of purpose - to get and retain power.
No you're dumb enough to hold the opinion above and call it smart.
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