RE: Actual Infinity in Reality?
February 15, 2018 at 1:06 pm
(This post was last modified: February 15, 2018 at 1:10 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
Everything is A or not A 
Time must have began along with existence. The 'time' that science can study... maybe not.
Time itself, as us lay people speak of it, if it's real at all and non-illusory, must have began along with existence and just be part of it. Why? Because nothing can exist BEFORE time. Why? Because the very concept of 'before' requires time.
And for something to begin at all, you need time. Because something beginning requires something happening. And happening requires temporal movement or IOW: Time.
As for space well, science says it's wrapped in with time... but again they study our experience of it rather than 'time itself' or whatever. As far as I am concerned either 'time itself' is something tied in with existence and logic or it's basically an illusion and we think we experience stuff 'happening' but that's just how our brain translates whatever the hell existence really is.
Space.... absolute space.... as in completely empty space, not empty space teeming with acitvity... but absolutely nothing. Doesn't exist.
So if time and space are truly tied together is that a clue that time isn't real either?
I think it's an illusion in one sense and it's part of logic in another sense. For example, any real sort of time travel is impossible because it violates what time really is if we assume it's real. Despite science saying otherwise.... because science isn't really saying otherwise. Because it's talking about something else. If atoms are by definition the smallest possible objects that are undividible and non-splittable then science never truly split an atom. They split something else slightly bigger and called it an atom. Of course, that version of an atom has become much more well known than the original definition.
In the same way, if time travel to the future but not the past, is at all possible according to science.... it's not talking about time travel in the way we normally think of it.
Look at it this way, the experience of space and time are always interconnected.... Well.... errr.....
To quote the stand-up comedian Ross Noble when heckled by an audience member asking him if he's ever time travelled: "Yeah.... mostly forwards.... and at the same speed as everyone else."
But yeah, the reason why actual real time travel into the future as we normally think of it is NOT logically possible is..... that would be us travelling to a place that doesn't exist yet.... which.... literally makes no sense. If it doesn't exist yet or hasn't happened yet.... then it's unaccessible. And whatever we access or whatever kind of travelling we do and whereever we seem or appear to be going.... it's not to the future.
Maybe if we were able to see the present a lot sooner than most people recognize it.... as there's usually a delay between noticing something.... science would call that time travel
"Hey 3000 AD has already happened but most people take 1000 years to notice it!"
"WUT people don't live for 1000 years!"
"Okay.... 1 nanosecond from now is the true present and most people are focusing on what actually happened a nanosecond ago. I am a time traveller from the future... one nanosecond ahead! Meaning I'm actually in the true present and you are a nanosecond behind in temporal awareness like everyone else! Okay I'm not actually from the future because I'm in the true present and so are you and most people who just haven't noticed it yet, and I'm a fraud and not a time traveller BUT SHUT THE FUCK UP! SCIENCE BITCH! YEAH!"
Time must have began along with existence. The 'time' that science can study... maybe not.
Time itself, as us lay people speak of it, if it's real at all and non-illusory, must have began along with existence and just be part of it. Why? Because nothing can exist BEFORE time. Why? Because the very concept of 'before' requires time.
And for something to begin at all, you need time. Because something beginning requires something happening. And happening requires temporal movement or IOW: Time.
As for space well, science says it's wrapped in with time... but again they study our experience of it rather than 'time itself' or whatever. As far as I am concerned either 'time itself' is something tied in with existence and logic or it's basically an illusion and we think we experience stuff 'happening' but that's just how our brain translates whatever the hell existence really is.
Space.... absolute space.... as in completely empty space, not empty space teeming with acitvity... but absolutely nothing. Doesn't exist.
So if time and space are truly tied together is that a clue that time isn't real either?
I think it's an illusion in one sense and it's part of logic in another sense. For example, any real sort of time travel is impossible because it violates what time really is if we assume it's real. Despite science saying otherwise.... because science isn't really saying otherwise. Because it's talking about something else. If atoms are by definition the smallest possible objects that are undividible and non-splittable then science never truly split an atom. They split something else slightly bigger and called it an atom. Of course, that version of an atom has become much more well known than the original definition.
In the same way, if time travel to the future but not the past, is at all possible according to science.... it's not talking about time travel in the way we normally think of it.
Look at it this way, the experience of space and time are always interconnected.... Well.... errr.....
To quote the stand-up comedian Ross Noble when heckled by an audience member asking him if he's ever time travelled: "Yeah.... mostly forwards.... and at the same speed as everyone else."
But yeah, the reason why actual real time travel into the future as we normally think of it is NOT logically possible is..... that would be us travelling to a place that doesn't exist yet.... which.... literally makes no sense. If it doesn't exist yet or hasn't happened yet.... then it's unaccessible. And whatever we access or whatever kind of travelling we do and whereever we seem or appear to be going.... it's not to the future.
Maybe if we were able to see the present a lot sooner than most people recognize it.... as there's usually a delay between noticing something.... science would call that time travel
"Hey 3000 AD has already happened but most people take 1000 years to notice it!"
"WUT people don't live for 1000 years!"
"Okay.... 1 nanosecond from now is the true present and most people are focusing on what actually happened a nanosecond ago. I am a time traveller from the future... one nanosecond ahead! Meaning I'm actually in the true present and you are a nanosecond behind in temporal awareness like everyone else! Okay I'm not actually from the future because I'm in the true present and so are you and most people who just haven't noticed it yet, and I'm a fraud and not a time traveller BUT SHUT THE FUCK UP! SCIENCE BITCH! YEAH!"
