RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 26, 2018 at 10:10 am
(March 25, 2018 at 9:00 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(March 25, 2018 at 8:45 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: RoadRunner, you have a problem with your argument. Kalam supports any deity of choice. Yahweh, Allah, Odin whatever. You have no option but to accept that gods which are not yours must also exist.
I agree.... It is a general argument which doesn't point you to any particular history or religion. However it doesn't follow then, that you must accept all God's or gods that fit that description (I don't believe Odin does fit). It's not necessary that all are required, so why multiply beyond necessity.
No, you have a bigger problem. Kalam does not point to any deity at all. Not yours, not anyone else's (and there are thousands of those).
The only reason that Kalam gets bandied about is not because it supports any deity on it's own, rather it is because all of the mad god-botherers shoehorn their own personal interpretation of a deity into it.
If I wanted to make the effort, I could shoehorn into Kalam the IPU or the FSM or any deity I made up out of whole cloth. Garage dragon, perhaps.
Get it into your head. If Kalam supports any "god" then, de facto it supports all "gods". Yours and everyone else's. All the thousands of them that have ever existed in the febrile minds of the various flavours of crank belief.
It is a useless line of argumentation for a particular "god" because it applies to all of them.
As if that were not bad enough, we know for a fact that the premises of Kalam are false anyway. You end up using false argument for all gods simultaneously existing.
