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Another hypothetical for theists.
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RE: Another hypothetical for theists.
(March 22, 2018 at 9:50 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(March 22, 2018 at 9:05 am)Mathilda Wrote: I think that every species, including humans would be vegan. Assuming Allah / Yahweh / Mr God was a good god. why create animals that have to survive by painfully tearing apart other animals?

Wow, there sure would need to be a lot of plants.

Anyway, would you be ok with animals that eat insects, or is that evil too?

Actually there wouldn't need to be so many plants. It is far more efficient eating plants directly than eating an animal that survives by eating plants,


https://michaelbluejay.com/veg/environment.html

Quote:We put far more energy into animals per unit of food than we do for any plant crop. The main reason is that cattle consume 16 times more grain than they produce as meat so right there we have 16 times as much energy just to grow those crops, just so we can waste them on livestock.

http://news.cornell.edu/stories/1997/08/...estock-eat

As far as insects are concerned, they probably also have a capacity to suffer, which is why they avoid aversive stimuli. So no, a world that was designed by a god would not have insects being eaten either.

(March 22, 2018 at 9:55 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(March 22, 2018 at 9:50 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Wow, there sure would need to be a lot of plants.

Anyway, would you be ok with animals that eat insects, or is that evil too?

I can't remember where it was, but I recall an article I read recently where they introduced predators back into an ecological system (I believe it was wolves).  The results where that everything became stronger and better.

I know what you are referring to. But it's because what we think of natural environments are often extremely unbalanced because of human activity. It wouldn't have to be designed that way. In this case it was yellowstone where wolves had already died out and this created the imbalance that was then rectified by reintroducing them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of...ellowstone
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Another hypothetical for theists. - by ignoramus - March 22, 2018 at 3:55 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 22, 2018 at 4:12 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by GUBU - March 22, 2018 at 7:41 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by vulcanlogician - March 22, 2018 at 7:45 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by emjay - March 22, 2018 at 11:23 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Whateverist - March 22, 2018 at 2:42 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 22, 2018 at 7:14 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by RoadRunner79 - March 22, 2018 at 7:09 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Edwardo Piet - March 22, 2018 at 7:30 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 22, 2018 at 8:24 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 22, 2018 at 10:04 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by brewer - March 22, 2018 at 8:41 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 22, 2018 at 9:05 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 22, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by RoadRunner79 - March 22, 2018 at 9:55 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 22, 2018 at 1:10 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 22, 2018 at 10:16 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Losty - March 22, 2018 at 9:38 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by possibletarian - March 23, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 22, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Edwardo Piet - March 22, 2018 at 9:38 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 22, 2018 at 3:34 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 22, 2018 at 9:25 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 22, 2018 at 10:24 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Edwardo Piet - March 22, 2018 at 9:40 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by ignoramus - March 22, 2018 at 5:53 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 22, 2018 at 10:38 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 22, 2018 at 11:27 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by RoadRunner79 - March 22, 2018 at 11:42 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 22, 2018 at 11:45 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by ignoramus - March 22, 2018 at 11:50 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 22, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 12:54 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2018 at 9:18 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 10:02 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 23, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 11:31 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2018 at 12:45 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 3:52 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2018 at 5:40 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 9:54 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Succubus - March 24, 2018 at 7:13 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 24, 2018 at 9:04 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 24, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 24, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2018 at 7:02 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 23, 2018 at 7:29 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 10:02 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 23, 2018 at 3:15 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 11:23 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Whateverist - March 23, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 3:35 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Whateverist - March 23, 2018 at 3:39 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 3:42 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 23, 2018 at 6:43 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 6:54 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by ignoramus - March 23, 2018 at 7:05 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by ignoramus - March 23, 2018 at 8:43 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 9:46 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 23, 2018 at 10:08 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 23, 2018 at 11:37 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 24, 2018 at 5:49 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 24, 2018 at 11:55 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Grandizer - March 24, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Catholic_Lady - March 24, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by possibletarian - March 23, 2018 at 11:39 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Godscreated - March 23, 2018 at 1:45 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 23, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by PaulieLoafer - March 23, 2018 at 10:20 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by I_am_not_mafia - March 23, 2018 at 10:39 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 23, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by drfuzzy - March 23, 2018 at 6:36 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 23, 2018 at 6:44 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 23, 2018 at 9:58 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 23, 2018 at 10:05 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Amarok - March 24, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: Another hypothetical for theists. - by Neo-Scholastic - March 24, 2018 at 2:11 pm

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