RE: The Objective Moral Values Argument AGAINST The Existence Of God
May 2, 2018 at 8:56 am
(This post was last modified: May 2, 2018 at 9:00 am by robvalue.)
(May 2, 2018 at 8:38 am)henryp Wrote:(May 2, 2018 at 8:25 am)robvalue Wrote: Yeah, I was thinking along those lines. God could be using it as a system in his scoring card. Then god does stuff to you after you die based on your score. Even then, the rule itself isn't doing anything, and has no impact whatsoever until you die.
Maybe there is an actual law of morality in heaven that physically stops people doing bad things to each other.
Yeah, it's weird thinking of a 'law' with no effect. Although maybe, there is an effect. I think tossing God aside, we think 'immoral' behavior has personal consequences. And I don't mean physical. Changes to who you are on a more basic level. I'd use people who fight in wars who are haunted for the rest of their lives over some of the things that happen. This is the first time I've put those ideas together in this context, so I'm just going to go wander off and think about it now.
Sure, we become shaped by our past actions and experiences. We don't necessary have to even do anything ourselves to become traumatized though, just seeing it can be enough; so calling that morality would be a stretch.
We have a conscience, which provides negative consequences to us if we run contrary to it. That's really part of evolution, it's a practical trait that got selected and reinforced. The study of this is where the idea of "morality" came from in the first place. It's certainly no kind of universal law, as obviously our consciences tell us different things to each other, and some people don't have one at all (psycopaths etc). That kind of makes psycopaths "immune" to the law of morality.
This is kind of what I'm saying about "objective morality" being so nonsensical, since the feedback loop from the conscience is entirely individual. Ultimately that's what morality is about, even though we can rationalize it in other ways.
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