RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 12, 2018 at 4:40 pm
(This post was last modified: November 12, 2018 at 4:52 pm by Everena.)
(November 12, 2018 at 3:16 pm)Everena Wrote:Where are these theists that you can have productive conversations with? Any of them in this forum that can vouch for you?(November 12, 2018 at 3:09 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I live in a country, that in my area at least is almost devoid of theists.93% of the world believes in God. See for yourself 73 cited scholarly sources.
Its a good country with a much better system of social care than America.
So how in a mainly godless country can our morality be so much more demonstrably superior to the rather in your face Christian country of the US?
The less religious they are, the better the people tend to be. This is seen everywhere in the world.
So it follows that religion is bad for humanity.
Look at the least religious countries quality of life and crime rates. Look at the US and atheist population percentages in prison.
From the face of it Atheism makes you better.
Why would a god make it thus?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism
What countries are you claiming don't believe in God? And the US is pretty darn good. We have the richest poor people in the world.
(November 12, 2018 at 3:12 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Fine, Everena. You're not even listening. Your problem isn't that you disagree with atheists, it's that you're insensitive to the very good reasons for our disbelief. Have fun doing whatever it is you are trying to do here.
FWIW, there are theists with whom I can have a productive conversation about such matters. You simply aren't one of them. My advice is to educate yourself and work on your logic (which is horrid btw) before attempting to persuade skeptics to see things from your point of view.
Higher intelligence than mere humans as the creating force of this universe is the only logical assumption anyone can make, and I have a college education. Do you? Also, you did not answer my question.
(November 12, 2018 at 4:09 pm)unfogged Wrote:(November 12, 2018 at 1:45 pm)Everena Wrote: What explanation do you have for pain and suffering in the world?
Shit happens, then you die. The trick is to make the most of it while you can because there's no good reason to believe there's anything more. Wasting your life dreaming about a fantasy world of gumdrops and unicorns after death is just sad.
That is not a valid explanation for all the pain and suffering that exists in this world.
(November 12, 2018 at 4:23 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:(November 12, 2018 at 4:09 pm)Everena Wrote: [quote pid='1847326' dateline='1542044702']
What explanation do you have for pain and suffering in the world?
The obvious explanation is that it's not all about individuals.
Individualism arose in the West (as a concept) at a specific time.
It can be traced. Since you can't even read an article and get what it's talking about correct,
I suspect you have very little education.
Evolution is not about individuals. It's about species survival.
In that context, pain and suffering is what it is.
The universe doesn't give a rip about individuals.
In tribal cultures, individuals also don't matter. Which is why in the Bible, personal immortality did not exist until after the
rise of individualism. In tribal cultures, only the tribe matters ... not individuals.
Religion / theism has no answer to the problem of theodicy.
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What article specifically are you claiming I did not understand?
(November 12, 2018 at 4:05 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: We all done with this moron yet?
I like the fact it’s offended by the slutty picture. And by eating meat. Let the hilarity commence.
I'm not an it, I am a human being. I'm not offended by slutty pictures, I just don't care to be compared to someone posing for one, and I eat meat every damn day.
(November 12, 2018 at 4:39 pm)no one Wrote: Why do I need to prove myself to this massive asshol,....er, I mean form of energy?
We have a goal to acheive here of becoming better people so we can be rewarded with eternity in paradise. As you know though, you can do anything you darn well please.