RE: New Iowa Law Restricts Abortion To Before Most Women Know They're Pregnant
May 15, 2018 at 7:13 am
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2018 at 7:19 am by RoadRunner79.)
(May 15, 2018 at 6:20 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 14, 2018 at 10:45 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: So do you not think that doctors removing the baby, and letting it die, is killing it? Do you think it is wrong to intentially harm and kill another without some moral justification? I don’t think that if a person locked someone in a room and let them die from “natural causes” would be any less murder; do you?
So now, even if the doctors do everything they can to give the newly evicted fetus a chance at life, that amounts to killing it? You're killing me. No, I mean literally, you're killing me. Unless you paypal me the money I need to live on, according to your definition, you're killing me.
Well let's see where we can go with this new definition. Obviously, if you don't give the potential lung recipient your lung, they are going to die of natural causes, too, so you are killing them. Same with the kidney. So, apparently, you think it's okay to "kill" the potential lung recipient, but not to "kill" a fetus. And the lung recipient is a fully born person. You think it's fine to "kill" them, but not the fetus. Your ethics are every bit as inconsistent as they were before. You don't remove an inconsistency in a system by redefining a term. I'd think as an engineer that you would understand this, but apparently not. All you accomplish by redefining the term is to move the inconsistency to another place in the system. Perhaps you might get lucky that way, and your interlocutor not be able to spot where it has moved to, but you will have accomplished nothing. You've swept the problem under the rug, but you haven't gotten rid of the dirt. About all you've shown in attempting to hide the problem this way is that you lack the integrity to face the problem outright.
So you didn’t answer the question. If a person locks someone in a room and lets them die of natural causes ( starve ) is that murder? Is it the same to you, as not giving a person a lung? Do you think that ones actions prior and their intentions make a difference in regaurds to ethics.
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