RE: Can God love?
July 10, 2018 at 1:01 am
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2018 at 1:03 am by Godscreated.)
(July 9, 2018 at 6:47 am)possibletarian Wrote:(July 9, 2018 at 12:16 am)Godscreated Wrote: You understand what Steve II has been telling you you just do not want to believe it's true,
That's a bit like me saying you don't want the stories or nature of Superman, Allah, Zeus etc to be true, there is absolutely no good reason to believe that your god exists, or that any attendant theology is true.
Quote:you're afraid.
I thought we had been over this, I'm not afraid of anything there is no good reason to believe is true.
Quote:God's God's holiness and justice are who He is and they must be satisfied
No god's holiness, justice or whatever other attribute's you choose to give him are simply you ascribe to explain why god is exactly the same as no god. With those attributes you don't even have to explain why there is no evidence.. why, well he's simply too holy.
Quote:just as hunger is part of who you are and must be satisfied.
No that's simply stupid,
1) you can demonstrate hunger what happens to the body when you don't eat
2) you can show the person who is hungry in any particular case exists.
In other words it's not a made up nebulous excuse to explain why god is exactly the same as no god
Quote:I explained to you earlier in this thread that God did not sacrifice Jesus, the Son of God volunteered, something He did not have to do, but as per you you've conveniently forgotten so you can continue to disrupt conversation.
Really, i would say i'm engaging in a real way, and without threatening a single person with a gory everlasting death, which i can't prove. If you don't have adequate answer to the questions, simply say that you don't know.
And even if jesus volunteered for a none death (which was the punishment, he was never really going to not live again), then how is that justice. The innocent suffering can never be called justice, that's just plain stupid. And if god can take a none guilty life then he's already broken his own rules of justice. So again if you are going to break your own rules, why not simply forgive.
Quote:By the way if Jesus did not raise from the dead we would have no hope of eternal life, through His resurrection God proved to us that it is possible to be raised from the dead into eternal life.
Hate to break this to you, but there is no good reason to believe any of that is true.
Quote:Christ's death was sufficient to pay the price, it was His sinless life that made Jesus the perfect sacrifice.
It does not meet the requirements the first part of justice even, that the guilty be punished not the innocent. The thing is GC it's not just the detail of your faith that is so silly, it's the whole thing. The thought of the master of the universe( add in many glorious titles here) having to sacrifice anyone or anything because he can't handle someone misbehaving is unbelievable beyond measure.
Quote:The truth is your so childish that you can't learn from conversations with Christians, what we tell you is truth, but you are not required to accept it as part of your life, unless you want your life to be a pleasant one for eternity.
I've pre-ordered the petrol and matches on amazon.. delivery wont even cost me anything.
Listen GC, you claim to have 'studied' the truth and science and that makes it worse, the fact you claim this then claim a young earth and a flood and other biblical related nonsense makes me really fear for you, please get some help before it's too late and you waste your whole life.
Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent—the Lord detests them both.
Proverbs 17:15
Like Steve II I'm done with you, it's your life for now it will be different in the future.
(July 10, 2018 at 1:00 am)Khemikal Wrote: Scared of the truth? The truth of what..that you;re complete ass with sick fantasies? Have you ever considered the possibility that you;re far less menacing than you think you are when you say that silly shit?
I am not trying to be menacing, it's your doubt that leads you to believe such, the truth has a way of getting in doesn't it. Don't bother to reply I want need to answer something you make up, we both know the truth and that's enough for me.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.