(June 29, 2018 at 5:41 pm)SteveII Wrote:(June 29, 2018 at 4:37 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Major Premise: If an objective moral lawgiver ("God") exists who is the source of objective morality, then God must be morally good.
Minor Premise: If a moral, infinite being exists, then such a being has moral obligations, namely, to reveal, unambiguously, objective moral truths to Us, His Creation.
Conclusion: Since such a clear revelation has never occurred, therefore, god does not exist.
All that your premises/logic require is the morality is discoverable.
I hear ALL the time here at AF that morality is easily discoverable.
I think they were arguing is that the degree of moral guidance important to the extent God is identical with moral guidance in essence, would imply, that he would do his best to manifest the guidance and that guidance would be clear to the extent there should be no disputes or differences and make people who will live the life be upon a clear proof and those who would die the death of ignorance, do so with clear proof.
I agree. The problem is humans are rebelling against themselves really and submitting to the Spirit of the Dark one, through the dark magic.
We are in a real battle for souls and for moral guidance, one side trying to manifest God's light and the other trying to put it out with their mouths.
Take a side playfully today and live a serious hard life to come. Take a hard stance today and life an enjoyable prosperous life to come.
Those are the incentives which otherwise should not be needed were it not for our selfish nature.