(July 1, 2018 at 9:37 am)MysticKnight Wrote:(July 1, 2018 at 9:16 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: This wasn’t a rhetorical question, MK. And, the fact that you chose not to answer it leads me to suspect that perhaps you’re more self-aware of the fatal flaw in your argument than you’ve lead us to believe up to this point.
“Quran is true because Quran says so” - And - “Quran is true because when I read it in a special way, its magic tells me how true it is.”
— are exactly the same statement. In the latter, you’re simply adding another unsupported assertion; “cuz the book is magical”, as a placeholder for the external evidence that you don’t have. You are still attempting to use the book to prove the truth of the book, which unfortunately for your argument, is still question begging. “Cuz magic”, is not an escape hatch, and it doesn’t get you out of your fallacy.
But, I have a funny feeling you know that already.
They are not the same statement if you understand the nature of miracles and reasoning to attest to them.
Regardless, if your argument is based on reason, logic, and demonstrable facts, your argument should be capable of being presented without reference to the Quran. Your unwillingness to divorce your argument from the Quran is basically tacit admission that you cannot do so, and that it is therefore not a valid proof based on reason, logic, and demonstrable facts. You're basically conceding LadyForCamus' point by your actions.