RE: The moral argument, for atheism!
July 2, 2018 at 1:26 pm
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2018 at 1:27 pm by Mystic.)
(July 1, 2018 at 9:45 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(July 1, 2018 at 2:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: No, LadyForCamus, the Quran must be referenced, but it's not due to it be reference it's true, it's due to the higher type of literature and way of guidance which is beyond capability of humans. I explained how it is, and I also offered over the years other arguments for the Quran, but the fact is you are trying to equate the two so you don't have to look at the proof.
That is not by quoting Quran, that is by reflection, logic and reason precedes Quran. God is ultimate reason and is capable of providing a sign/proof in the form of guidance from him.
“Reflecting” is not evidence in support of anything, and you have no actual evidence that your book is magic. You just declare it by fiat.
(July 1, 2018 at 3:41 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The fact they aren't even amazed by it, just shows there is something sinister a force a magic, that keeps people from properly perceiving it. It's ok, I been through that phase. I know now the Quran amazements are not only undeniable but it's enemies and the enemies of the family of the reminder, have to use evil tactics to keep people from perceiving it as is.
You are beyond a rational discussion at this point. The demons make me hate the Quran, okay? Does it make you feel better to think evil forces are controlling my mind rather than accept the fact that I’m just not convinced anything in the damn book is true? Is that a hypothesis based on reason and evidence, or on the paranoid delusions of an ill mind? You need help very badly, MK.
Reflecting is the only way to either deny or affirm what Quran claims to be as a proof and miracle from God legitimately. Of course many people follow religions or even Islam, without proof, but this is condemned. And many people deny religions without proofs, this equally condemned.
If you don't want to do it, then don't do it, but if Quran is a proof from God, it cannot be approached by whims to discover that.
As for the devils of Jinn and Humans, you have to take them seriously enough to consider them, not saying to believe in them, but if you consider them, you may be able to recognize them and be able to defeat them.
