Subjective Morality?

[Mystic]

Right, you have to define what it means for morality/actions to be objectively correct. If you just allude to some hypothetical system without saying what it’s even supposed to achieve, then you’re not specifying anything.

Every system is the best at achieving what that system achieves. You need a meta-system before you can grade the systems, and that either needs agreeing or declaring. The first doesn’t happen, and the second would be pointless.

What do we achieve by saying, "I’m right and they are wrong"? If we expect them to actually change their ways, we need to provide our reasoning, otherwise we're just massaging our egos.

I have to go after this. But I repeated, there is difference between recognizing morality based on the proof of morality or a proof of it, and reflecting and seeing, and blindly following conjecture about it by society or conjecture about a holy book or blindly following a verse in a holy book, and there is difference between us making it per our desires or cultural norms and mixing culture with truth of what it truly is.

Recognition means discerning truth of moral percept. This has three basis to it.

1. The actually moral light and hue.
2. The application of the moral light and hue to the situation.
3. The assessment of the situation.

We can err in any combination of these 3.

That is why reflection from a holy book, will help us in all three. When he helps in all three, we can see properly.

And the family of the reminder help show how the book assess and shows all three.

This is no easy task but we have to unite on the truth if we are going to unite.