RE: why do we enjoy poetry From the perspective of neuroscience?
January 6, 2019 at 7:22 am
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2019 at 7:26 am by bennyboy.)
(January 6, 2019 at 7:15 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:(January 6, 2019 at 7:05 am)Thoreauvian Wrote: Easy. We observe our conscious states in ourselves first of all. Then people tell us, all the time, what's going on inside their heads. We can even infer them in animals, by proxies. All of these things fall within the realm of scientific observations for certain sciences.
That robots can imitate humans and essentially lie about such states means nothing whatsoever to our evolved abilities.
What is evolutionary purpose of consciousness/subjective experience? Robot-like p-zombie would be just as good at survival
This is the essence of the material monist problem:
(1) Believe in a deterministic, mechanistic, objective monism.
(2) Still say that subjective experience is important. Hint at some kind of evolutionary narrative, but don't bother to explain how subjective experience has anything to do with the behavior of the evolved system.
Unless someone can demonstrate substantial differences between subjective experiencing machines (e.g. brains) and non-subjective experiences machines (e.g. super-convincing androids 50 years from now), then there's a problem.
The first step would be-- demonstrate that subjective experience exists, anywhere and in any form, using purely objective observation (hint: it can't be done!)
(January 6, 2019 at 7:05 am)Thoreauvian Wrote:You are making very many positive factual assertions. What you aren't doing is demonstrating that any of your assertions are factually correct.