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Identity Politics
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RE: Identity Politics
(February 9, 2019 at 4:06 pm)PRJA93 Wrote: One's political ideas are not the entire summation of their identity. That I'm a liberal and have opponents does not mean they oppose my identity, but rather my ideas.
In politics, they are.  It cant have escaped you that the right considers you an unamerican commie by simple virtue of your liberal identity? They shout that to the rooftops nightly.

Quote:Politics =/= identity politics.
IDK that this statement can actually be argued to be true.  There is no single political issue that is not..as the author put it, imbricated with identity from the very outset.  

Quote:Understanding this, you can understand that one's identity is not and does not have to be a precursor to what ideas one holds. Some ideas are held because of what one's identity is, and that's okay too sometimes. But ideas can exist on their own and be judged for their logical or rational merit rather than being judged on who is supposed to hold those ideas and why.

Identity politics seems to be the problem here.
By what metric?  It wins the dems votes - arguing against "identity politics" immediately tanks a person as..more or less, a nazi. It's politically suicidal (or, conversely, a pro if a person is a rightwing nutjob and/or enjoys watching dems get purity purged).   That's only a problem if you're a rightwing nut...which you aren't.

It seems as if the reality of identity politics has been utterly divorced from the edifice of identity politics as a weaponized slur the right flings at the left like so much shit in a chimp exhibit., That this divorce was entirely one sided in it's benefits. You, as a liberal, stand to gain nothing and lose it all. Nothing would be more convenient to rightwing identity politics than that the left abandoned it's own. It leaves them holding, in their sole possession, a compelling tool....and turns you into a hypocritical liar. In the minds of the vox populi.

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Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 8, 2019 at 9:39 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Sal - February 8, 2019 at 10:56 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 3:35 am
RE: Identity Politics - by GUBU - February 11, 2019 at 11:00 am
RE: Identity Politics - by bennyboy - February 12, 2019 at 7:15 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 8:34 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Grandizer - February 12, 2019 at 9:39 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Grandizer - February 11, 2019 at 7:16 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 8:40 am
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 9:59 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 11:14 am
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 2:05 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 12:26 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 1:56 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 2:34 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 2:55 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 2:58 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 3:18 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 3:25 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 4:06 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 4:23 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 4:47 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 5:08 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 5:03 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 5:11 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 5:18 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 5:35 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 6:02 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 6:06 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Anomalocaris - February 9, 2019 at 6:21 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 6:24 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 10, 2019 at 9:33 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Anomalocaris - February 10, 2019 at 1:16 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by brewer - February 10, 2019 at 9:54 am
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2019 at 1:13 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 10, 2019 at 2:15 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2019 at 2:22 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 8:55 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 9:45 am
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 9:47 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 10:09 am
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 10:14 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 10:55 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 12:14 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 12:21 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 12:27 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 12:33 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Athene - February 13, 2019 at 7:46 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 14, 2019 at 12:30 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 14, 2019 at 12:55 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 14, 2019 at 2:22 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 14, 2019 at 2:42 pm

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