RE: No reason justifies disbelief.
March 22, 2019 at 4:27 am
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2019 at 4:52 am by Deesse23.)
(March 22, 2019 at 4:03 am)Belaqua Wrote:(March 22, 2019 at 2:54 am)Deesse23 Wrote: You stated: "things change" and "change has a reason". You seem to accept this proposition, right?
Here is what I said:
Quote:For example, Aristotle's whole argument for a First Mover begins from two premises:
1) things change, and
2) change is caused by something.
Those seemed self-evident to people for a long time. The rest of the argument pretty much goes from there, without the need for more premises.
I understand that people now tend to think the second premise is not believable. Maybe so.
Note that I am describing Aristotle's argument. Note that it doesn't say I find the argument persuasive.
I was giving an example of how metaphysical arguments can begin with what appear to be self-evident premises.
Quote:I brought forward radioactive decay and asked you if you have any idea for the reason of decay of an individual nucleus. If you accept the premises of the argument you bring forward, then i am sure you have an idea of how and what causes radioactive decay. If you dont, then i am wondering how you accept claims of something fundamental about reality while having examples of something that does not support this claim at all.
I make no claims concerning radioactive decay or causation. You have misread me.
Quote:Its simple logic, which you seem love so much.
I also like it when people read what I say and not what I didn't say.
I havent claimed that you have claimed anything about radioactive decay. I, too, like it when people read what I say and not what I didn't say. Stop applying double standards. You seem to think much better of yourself than that lame attempt of evading, dont you?
I have asked you if you know (or have any idea of) what causes radioactive decay of individual nuclei.
You and i we both know what happens here, and everybody else who can read too:
You are critcizing people for holding their positions, then posit other positions which you finally admit you dont hold at all. Then you criticize people for not accepting certain positions (like deism/theism) while admitting to not accepting positions you bring to the table yourself.
As has been said already, you certainly are very much impressed by yourself.
You bring many positions to the table of which you seem to hold none, after thorough questioning. You are a self centered weasel.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse