(March 22, 2019 at 7:09 pm)Belaqua Wrote: Clearly we have different ways of approaching these issues. What I've said should be clear and ordinary to anyone with some background in metaphysics.
All you seem to do is quote some other 'cleverer person than yourself' who by the way has been unable to convince you, and then suggest we take it seriously as a method to gain knowledge of god.
Quote:I also think that the insults and false accusations make conversation difficult. So I'll stop.
Oh stop it, It's a forum these things happen to a degree, someone not agreeing with you is not persecution, and neither are you persecuting anyone, you have to expect a little frustration on both sides I suggest you grow a thicker skin.
Quote:Thank you anyway. I respect your loyalty to your beliefs.
But we are willing to change our minds, to explore if metaphysics, logical arguments call it what you will can solve this issue, and after a few centuries they have been unable to convince you, a disciple of these methods. If you believe people a lot smarter than you have solved the problem then why withhold belief ?
Just because we are unconvinced both on the reliability of it's method and it's results does not mean you have to be, if you think we don't understand, or have misrepresented something, point that out with more than a 'you don't understand' or 'really smart people have said this or that'. You are being so vague and evasive in everything you say, maybe take a stance (even if only playing devils advocate) then see how we go from there.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'