No reason justifies disbelief.

[possibletarian]

I didn't realize we were in a hurry. The arguments are difficult and people tend to misunderstand them. I think science people should be more comfortable saying "I don't know."

Science is very comfortable with a 'I don't know' in fact it's the standard answer to 'where did the universe come from' and many other questions. Why do you keep asking 'what's the hurry' ? either you can demonstrate something, or you cannot.

There's a difference between disagreement to further the conversation and insults to shut it down.

 

Even so, a thick skin will serve you better.

I have tried to be as clear as possible. Maybe I'm talking about one thing and you'd like me to talk about another.

We so far as i can gather you are of the opinion that logic is a good way to truth, and in the context of our conversation specifically to answer the question of 'Is there a god'' you then claim that we can trust metaphysics to answer this question and that you have come across arguments that you cannot defeat. You then go on to claim that despite this you remain unconvinced of the truths of these arguments, so you see we are really unsure what it is you are trying to say.. so let me try and clarify.

1) You lack belief in god(s) you have said this several times
2) You have been unable to defeat metaphysical arguments for the existence of god
3) You do not believe however that these arguments offer sufficient proof or evidence for you personally to believe
4) You do believe however that these types of augments can provide proof of god's existence (you just don't personally believe one has been offered yet)

Is that accurate so far ?