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Do electrons exist?
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RE: Do electrons exist?
I didn't say that the observer effect makes me choose idealism. It is the inability to represent elemental particles unambiguously in space and time which did that, as I've mentioned in maybe half a dozen other threads we've had about it, and which I've already explained in this thread.

And I'm not trying to say "the universe is waaatchinnng ussss"-- which I've also already said. Relax. I will hereby formally stipulate that an observer is anything which, in measuring a particle, can affect its state or behavior. So. . . we're on the same page, right?

Now, I WILL digress with an observation about the nature of light. We know that for a photon, no time passes in its journey, right? The idea of time is meaningless from the "perspective" of a photon. In essence, the Universe from the perspective of a photon must be a singular point connecting two molecules, the transmitter and the absorber. In at least that frame of reference, it's not moving, and it can't change state.

Now, there's one thing about the experiment that bugs me. In order to generate interference using a splitter mirror, it seems to me that in order for a particle to be reflected, it must be absorbed and re-transmitted-- while this is not necessarily true for a photon which passes through the mirror. But in QM, all possible paths are realized, which means no information was lost in the absorption and re-transmission of an entangled photon. What does it MEAN?
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Do electrons exist? - by Macoleco - April 5, 2019 at 5:58 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 5, 2019 at 6:15 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by brewer - April 5, 2019 at 6:26 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by Macoleco - April 5, 2019 at 7:35 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by brewer - April 5, 2019 at 8:12 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 5, 2019 at 6:36 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 5, 2019 at 7:40 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 6, 2019 at 3:05 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by robvalue - April 6, 2019 at 3:12 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 6, 2019 at 3:16 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by robvalue - April 6, 2019 at 6:22 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 6, 2019 at 9:02 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by robvalue - April 6, 2019 at 3:18 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 6, 2019 at 6:26 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by robvalue - April 6, 2019 at 6:38 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 6, 2019 at 9:08 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by Angrboda - April 6, 2019 at 6:39 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2019 at 9:05 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2019 at 9:14 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 6, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 6, 2019 at 9:20 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by chimp3 - April 6, 2019 at 9:45 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by Foxaèr - April 6, 2019 at 9:48 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2019 at 10:17 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 6, 2019 at 10:52 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2019 at 10:53 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 6, 2019 at 5:15 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by Smaug - April 6, 2019 at 5:54 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by Little lunch - April 7, 2019 at 1:27 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 7, 2019 at 4:40 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by Angrboda - April 7, 2019 at 7:58 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 8, 2019 at 7:22 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 7, 2019 at 10:15 am
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 7, 2019 at 12:38 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 7, 2019 at 2:12 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 7, 2019 at 5:35 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 7, 2019 at 5:47 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by Little lunch - April 7, 2019 at 5:42 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by Abaddon_ire - April 7, 2019 at 5:57 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by bennyboy - April 7, 2019 at 7:21 pm
RE: Do electrons exist? - by Macoleco - April 7, 2019 at 9:55 pm

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