(April 16, 2019 at 12:40 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: the answer to my question, clearly, is no. You don't understand..and since you're unwilling to work from a basis of common and easily researched facts it's unlikely that this discussion will produce any insight beyond how thoroughly superstitions like yours prevent any useful discussion of the historicity of jesus, or the development of the christian faith.
You haven’t provided a single fact outside or source outside of a wikipedia article.
And your answer is factually incorrect.
Marcion believed Jesus was the messiah:
“for they knew that he was the Christ. “
That he went around preaching about the kingdom of god:
“I must announce as good tidings the kingdom of God to the other cities also: for therefore am i sent. “
That he was brought in front of Pilate:
“1 And the whole company arose,
and brought him before Pilate.
2 And they began to accuse him, saying,
We found this fellow perverting the nation,
and destroying the law and the prophets,
and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar,
and turning away the women and children,
saying that he himself is Christ a King. “
And that he was subsequently crucified by the romans:
“And when they were come to the place, which is called the Skull,
there they crucified him, and the malefactors,
one on the right hand, and the other on the left.”
Not only have you been refuted, I actually provided quotes from the early sources indicating this, from Marcion’s Gospel.
