RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
June 14, 2019 at 9:00 am
(This post was last modified: June 14, 2019 at 9:07 am by SenseMaker007.)
(June 13, 2019 at 4:29 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: I think the consensus is the concept of causality does not closely reflect any actual fundamental mechanism, it only empirically describe highly probable sequences of macroscopic appearances.
I never disagreed with that.
Quote:At the deepest level, things literally happen just because of nothing. It just happens.
And that is completely different and not what indeterminism or acausality suggests.
(June 13, 2019 at 4:29 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: But the outcome of happens follows interrelated probabilities and do so by no discernible mechanism.
You've already contradicted yourself in the next breath. If things happen because of interrelated probabilistic laws then that's not nothing. "Things happen due to interrelated probabilistic laws" doesn't mean "things happen for no reason at all."
(June 13, 2019 at 4:29 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: But that framework will eventually break down if larger events are interatively broken down into their consentient subevents
The map is not the territory. No known explanation doesn't imply no explanation. Like I said, quantum theorists may as well give up on quantum theory if they think they've come to a point where there's no explanation to be found. That's not how science works. We don't assume that there is no explanation just because we haven't found one.
I think it's just an example of how egocentric humanity is when humans think that because they can't find the reason for something then it must mean that there is no reason. Very hilarious.
