RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
December 26, 2019 at 8:26 am
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2019 at 8:27 am by Peebothuhlu.)
(December 26, 2019 at 8:10 am)Klorophyll Wrote: So basically, everything does what it does because 'it is'. What you're saying is a tautology. Nobody denies physics figures out how things work, but if they seem to work for specific purpose, an ontological explanation is warranted.
Let me restate my answer this way : if a marksman successfully shoots down a hummingbird from a very long range, here is what physicists would say : the bullet went straight to the bird because the trajectory of the bullet is 'just is', the bullet came from the rifle in the right moment because the rifle just happens to be there at this moment.
Now all what the physcists are saying is true of course, but the existence of a purpose [killing the bird] warrants an intelligent agent with the purpose in mind. That's what detectives do in a daily basis, they find evidence of purposeful killing, therefore a killer. And science increasingly reveals to us that's it's actually safe to infer that to the whole universe, because again, the universe seemed to have our existence in mind.
So... yes "Everything does what it does 'because'..." and no, that's not quite a tautology. It's the limit of our understanding of why things are as they are.
Why do atoms do what they do? Who knows? It may simply just be a 'Brute fact' of reality about what atoms 'Do' and that's that.
Or... as physicists keep searching for and learning about, there may actually be more turtles leading ever downwards.
Actually... your analogy doesn't quite work for me.
You see... you're mixing up 'Intent' with applied physics.
People use their limited understanding of physics to harness the properties of the reality around us. Be it the 'mechanical' energy of stressed wood. The 'chemical' energy or mixtures of sulphur, carbon and potasium nitrate etc.
So, just because we put our understanding to good use doesn't mean, say, a volcano puts its pyroclastic flow towards the purpose of killing all the wild life on the vocanoe's slopes when it erupts.
As for reality being 'For us'? What? I don't see many people living happilly, nekkid, on the Moon... Or pretty much any where else in our solar system... Let alone the univers around us.
As for the univers having us in mind?
Yeah, I'm sure there's an asteroid thinking really hard about its imminent impact with Earth... Or the Sun throwing off a metric ton of energetic material to interact with us hence possibly cause skin cancer at the least or wiping out electronic civilization as we know it at the worst.
I long ago stopped tryingot anthropomorphise the reality around me.
I now understand my cat is just a small, furry predator human's have only partially shaped into something that doesn't (Most of the time) want to eat us in our sleep.
Cheers.
Not at work.