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A 'proof' of God's existence - free will
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RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will
(May 4, 2020 at 11:12 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(May 4, 2020 at 10:54 pm)cleansed Wrote: The determining factor would be in how the Universe was created.
Not between a fatalist universe and a determinist universe.  However either universe was created it would still be whatever it is.  A Fatalist universe created by a god is still a fatalist universe.  A determinist universe created by a god is still a determinist universe.  So on and so forth.
Quote:If it was created by blind forces, then free will is impossible. 

If it was created by a transcendent God, then free will is possible.
Why would that be the deciding factor?  If we live in a universe where blind forces™ created free will, then it would still be a universe where free will existed, wouldn't it?
God could create a Universe either way, with or without free will.  I don't believe blind forces can create a Universe in which free will is possible.  And truth be told, I don't think blind forces can create a Universe period.  But either way I believe the only way we could have free will is if God created the Universe.  So therefore

If God does not exist free will is impossible
Free will is possible
Therefore God exists
~Jesus didn't come to make bad people good.  He came to make dead people alive~
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A 'proof' of God's existence - free will - by mrj - April 27, 2020 at 9:58 pm
RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will - by mrj - April 28, 2020 at 8:05 am
RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will - by mrj - April 28, 2020 at 10:19 am
RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will - by Brian37 - April 28, 2020 at 10:37 am
RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will - by Brian37 - April 28, 2020 at 10:46 am
RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will - by Brian37 - April 28, 2020 at 11:25 am
RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will - by GUBU - April 28, 2020 at 6:02 pm
RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will - by chimp3 - April 28, 2020 at 7:37 pm
RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will - by cleansed - May 4, 2020 at 11:18 pm
RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will - by Sal - August 9, 2020 at 10:25 am

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