RE: That Gay Thread
November 23, 2021 at 10:56 pm
(This post was last modified: November 23, 2021 at 10:57 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(November 23, 2021 at 10:10 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I could have done a point-by-point dissection of Huggy Bear's latest rant, but I think I could cover most of it by pointing out the underlying fallacy that underlies the problem: his assumption that because one major founder of Planned Parenthood had eugenicist views, therefore, the organisation she founded cannot possibly have evolved from that in the hundred plus years it's been around. Indeed, they've recently done what they could to distance themselves from her for her dodgier views because they know they were terrible.*emphasis mine*
And, even then, Margaret Sanger's views were a bit more complex than the simple "white supremacist eugenicist" narrative Huggy Bear's pushing. For one thing, one of the last things she did before she died was set up an award named after herself, and its first recipient? Martin Luther Fucking King Junior. I think you mentioned one of his nieces and expected us to infer his beliefs from that, but here's something straight from the horse's mouth. Admittedly, he didn't deliver it in person, since he was in another state (apparently, he was doing critical work on the Chicago Open Housing Movement), but he sent his wife Coretta.
And, even before that, even before the Negro Project, when she opened her first birth control clinic in Harlem, she had the support of leaders in the black community. Including W.E.B. DuBois. And, yes, he even worked on the Negro Project. And this little op/ed from him might shed some light into why so many Planned Parenthood clinics are in Black neighbourhoods (spoiler: it's because neighbourhoods that are majority black also tend to have high amounts of poverty. Also, since Planned Parenthood doesn't have a monopoly on abortions, other clinics can pick up the slack in the richer neighbourhoods.)
And, even then, a proper eugenicist program with Planned Parenthood's ideals couldn't really work. It emphasises a woman's choice to bear children or not, and since a proper eugenicist view requires a lot of buy-in, as well as a lot of coercion into forcing those who didn't buy in to remove themselves from the gene pool, it's clear these are not really two pieces that go together.
You keep mentioning black leaders like it's supposed to mean anything...From planned parenthoods own damn website.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planne...ret-sanger
Quote:The difficult truth is that Margaret Sanger’s racist alliances and belief in eugenics have caused irreparable damage to the health and lives of Black people, Indigenous people, people of color, people with disabilities, immigrants, and many others. Her alignment with the eugenics movement, rooted in white supremacy, is in direct opposition to our mission and belief that all people should have the right to determine their own future and decide, without coercion or judgement, whether and when to have children.
We must acknowledge the harm done, examine how we have perpetuated this harm, and ensure that we do not repeat Sanger’s mistakes. We denounce the history and legacy of anti-Blackness in gynecology and the reproductive rights movement, and the mistreatment that continues to this day.
Why YOU keep trying to defend Margaret Sanger is beyond me.
"And this little op/ed from him might shed some light into why so many Planned Parenthood clinics are in Black neighbourhoods (spoiler: it's because neighbourhoods that are majority black also tend to have high amounts of poverty."
The reason these black neighbourhoods are poverty stricken results from the history of racist policies dating all the way back to slavery. So ensure black people remain on the bottom of the economic ladder through policy, then use that as an excuse to disproportionately target them for abortions and sterilizations. sounds about whi...right.
Like I stated in the beginning it all points to white supremacy, you still have yet to prove the lie.