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No soul? No free will and no responsibility then, yet the latter's essential...
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RE: No soul? No free will and no responsibility then, yet the latter's essential...
(August 20, 2020 at 1:13 pm)Lawz Wrote: Here's the argument in brief video form for free will impossibilism, for anyone who's unfamiliar with it (Shazza?). 





If there were some kind of ethereal supernatural "soul" in the picture (for which there is, of course, zero evidence) then perhaps some from of free will would be possible, but for the atheist, it's a simple impenetrable brick wall. No human has free will. And yet,

For society to function in any kind of moral way people need be held responsible for their actions (eg - crime). You frequently hear the line "they did it of their own free will" etc. I say this is the core paradox of being alive in society and that the sooner everybody gets on board with it the better, instead of giving a lame ass shrug and carrying on as normal. Here's my new mantra, to be drilled into my puny, malleable, yielding, fickle mind:

We need be held responsible for our actions, including by ourselves, although in truth the logic and evidence overwhelmingly directs that we are not. This is the fundamental foundation of a modern, atheistic, civilised society, and the bolded bit need be drilled home from infancy.

Yup, it's the mother of all paradoxes, but there we have it, it's....inescapable.

Forty thoughts AF?

As far as I'm concerned I have free will. I don't know what the fuck you're on about.

The above typed with the application of free will. 

The above typed with the application of free will. 

The above typed with the application of free will. 

The above typed with the application of free will.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: No soul? No free will and no responsibility then, yet the latter's essential... - by brewer - August 20, 2020 at 10:31 pm

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