RE: God so hated the world
November 30, 2020 at 3:40 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2020 at 3:50 pm by Greatest I am.)
(November 25, 2020 at 3:09 pm)Prycejosh1987 Wrote:He let Satan test Job to solidify Satan disgust and hatred towards God and humans.(October 3, 2020 at 8:41 am)Eleven Wrote: He hated his human creations so much that he drowned them all, thinking only one family was worthy of a second go via incest.
He hated us so much, that he preferred joining forces with the devil to torture poor Job.
He hates us so much that he allows the devil to live when he has no problems allowing children to starve, be raped, and die of cancer.
That is not a loving god. That is a monster.
How funny is that, your saying that God should not be just or judge righteously. If God wasnt just or fair, and people didnt have to use faith then, people would walk all over Him. He himself knows that, that is why He put certain things in place. Hell, heaven, judgement for all who believer, those who dont believe, manifested evil, His promises, etc. This is all to show He cares and to see the need for him. You also have to see the reason why God does these things, look at context.
Job for example was blessed twice as much in every area, in the end, God let Satan test God, for Job to be an example to us all. He let Satan test Job to solidify Satan disgust and hatred towards God and humans. He let Job to be tested for him to explain Himself in the bible. Etc. There are tons and tons of things i could say about Job and his story.
Satan, being less of a mass murderer than Yahweh, was wise in solidifying her hatred toward a vile mass murderer who like to pull the wings off of Job for the fun of it.
I myself hate the immoral people who glorify a genocidal god.
I also hate all those who love Hitler and Stalin etc.
What do you find compelling in the genocidal? Why do you adore a mass murderer who kills when he could just as easily cure?
Moral people want to know how the immoral think.
Regards
DL
(November 30, 2020 at 2:05 am)ronedee Wrote:(October 3, 2020 at 8:41 am)Eleven Wrote: He hated his human creations so much that he drowned them all, thinking only one family was worthy of a second go via incest.
He hated us so much, that he preferred joining forces with the devil to torture poor Job.
He hates us so much that he allows the devil to live when he has no problems allowing children to starve, be raped, and die of cancer.
That is not a loving god. That is a monster.
It's interesting and humorous that you atheists think all the stories of the bible are made-up. Yet you are right there blasting them as actual events.
As for Theodicy? Evil exists. And God is the only way around it. Unfortunately, no one (especially here) invokes God for help. No, we (yes even me,
sometimes) prefer to solve things ourselves....or blame someone else (aka God) for them, when we can't solve them. We forget that most all
of our problems are caused by US!
Fortunately, there is a "Way"! Jesus. It's basically submitting to the, "Will of God". Accepting Him. Trusting Him. Loving Him...and each other.
He paid the price for everything that YOU blamed Him for. And His "human creation" put Him to death for all those things and more!
Don't keep crucifying Him! Believe that the debt has been paid. He conquered evil for us, and death is now just a door. We can all choose to be divine
children of God! Rather than perpetuating the lie that "everything is His fault"!
Yes, we were given a Life. And we have free will. Let's use it for good, not evil. Love, not hate. And understand that many things we criticize God for is
collectively in our power to remedy, or avoid. And what is not; is left to God's Will and Power to trust in.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Amen
"As for Theodicy? Evil exists. And God is the only way around it."
This in not my view as I do not have a problem of evil and FMPOV, there is no conflict between god and nature on this issue. Evolution forces us to compete and thus do what others will see as evil against them. This aside as you are not ready to think.
You might wonder why Christians sing of Adam's sin being a happy fault and necessary to Yahweh's plan.
Would you do as Adam did or would you derail Yahweh's plan?
As to your last. Have you ever looked at your view from a moral perspective? Not likely or you would see how vile your belief is.
On Jesus dying for Christians. Try to think in a moral way.
It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.
Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.
It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.
To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.
Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are promoting doing just that.
Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh. Tsk tsk.
Regards
DL
