(August 21, 2022 at 11:16 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Saying that something is the humane thing to do is to assert that a people x have a humane responsibility to y, all the same. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree as to whether or not the us assumed the responsibility of governance and infrastructure to the afghan people when we systematically eradicated their civil authority for refusing to cough up a terrorist.
You're probably unaware, being Canadian and all, but the us police force has less training, less accountability, and a looser roe than us occupation forces do. That's one of the problems..I see, with the us police forces. Militarized, but not military. To my mind, it's a way to make a bad situation even worse. You don't want the military in your neighborhood, or in afghanistans neighborhood.....so why would you want the police forces we have in anyones neighborhood. Right?
I think the war on terrorism and the war on drugs are/were both garbage. In fact, because of how garbage they were, our institutions are now responsible, at least in part, for the victims of both here and abroad. But maybe not, maybe we can discharge that duty to perdue and the taliban - throw em some cash. They'll probably do right....right?
You ask what these sorts of interventions got me? Nothing but bad dreams and fucked up legs - but..then again...I didn't get into it thinking it would get me something. I was a soldier, and peacekeeper....not a raider, lol. Is that all we did? Would that be a bad thing? Why? Terrorism is just a fact, and we should give them money - not that we owe them anything. Right?
-But all that's just for fun. Here it is. Here's Biden and leftists fucking up. Abandoning the afghan people with full knowledge of their fate in that event beforehand. Small potatoes. What are the queers doing to the soil!
If I were to admit that taking in refugees means that I think we are responsible for them, then that is the case because taking in refugees is actually easy peasy to accomplish. The West can easily do that, but we can't fix their shithole countries. Tried it. It didn't go well.
Yes, the military is far better trained than the US police, but all the training in the world can't prevent drone strikes from killing 90 % civilians, and if a mans family is blown up by a drone strike, what do you expect him to do other than become an extremist who now wants to work against you and join the people you are fighting?
I wasn't asking what the intervention got you personally. I was referring to the USA and the other Western countries that took part in these wars. Like I've posted before, I respect your service and the sacrifice you made getting injured. Unless soldiers are going around raping people or doing what they did at Abu Ghraib, I don't hold you or anyone else responsible for doing a job.