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Any Moral Relativists in the House?
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RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House?
@Angrboda

I'm going to let James Rachels do a little work for me here:





I grant you that "incoherent" may be too strong a term. I don't mind redacting that claim. But my main criticism of relativism is that it says nothing about the status of moral facts. That's something I would prefer a metaethical position do. The nihilists do this: "morality is a fairy tale." That says something about moral realism: "it is false." I appreciate that.

How does "culture A has this moral code, and culture B has some other moral code" relate coherently to the issue at hand in metaethics? (Namely: Are there moral facts or not?) It doesn't.

And, yes. One can use customs and mores to explain cultural practices, just as one can cite injustice to explain civil unrest. But the latter is a genuine metaethical position (ie. there are moral facts, and here is an example of one.) Questionable as a moral skeptic may find such a view, it makes a genuine metaethical argument.

A sociologist who examines the beliefs of a Catholic population may find that many believe in the healing power of a nearby spring. This has explanatory power concerning the behaviors and practices of that specific population of Catholics. But it says nothing about the healing powers of the spring. Likewise, what a given culture propagates as a moral norm (while it is factual that they propagate it) has nothing to do with it's truth or falsity as a moral fact.

As for individual relativism. I don't really mind it in a broader philosophical sense. It has a kind of Albert Camus charm to it. But it suffers the same faults as cultural relativism when discussing metaethics. It also says nothing about the status of moral realism.
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RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Brian37 - May 23, 2021 at 6:59 am
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Foxaèr - May 23, 2021 at 7:49 am
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Angrboda - May 23, 2021 at 11:57 am
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Sal - May 23, 2021 at 1:09 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Brian37 - May 24, 2021 at 5:00 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Brian37 - May 26, 2021 at 4:07 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by no one - May 24, 2021 at 7:26 am
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Brian37 - May 24, 2021 at 12:52 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Brian37 - May 24, 2021 at 6:01 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by no one - May 24, 2021 at 1:00 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Angrboda - May 24, 2021 at 1:01 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by vulcanlogician - May 25, 2021 at 7:55 am
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Angrboda - May 25, 2021 at 8:17 am
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by brewer - May 25, 2021 at 11:29 am
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Angrboda - May 25, 2021 at 3:24 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by brewer - May 25, 2021 at 4:47 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Angrboda - May 30, 2021 at 12:48 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Belacqua - June 14, 2021 at 1:40 am
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Foxaèr - June 17, 2021 at 9:48 pm
RE: Any Moral Relativists in the House? - by Foxaèr - June 17, 2021 at 9:57 pm

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