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Adulterous woman
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RE: Adulterous woman
(June 13, 2021 at 6:27 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I haven't noticed that to be the case with any christian.  Are you speaking from experience?  Have you prayed so hard and so long that you do less or no wrong and are now clothed in the righteousness of christ?  I fear we're drifting between bad advice and empty promises.  One hopes that christianity has more to offer.

That would be logical because not all that claim to belong to Christ are His (Matthew 7:22-24), though I pass no judgment.  I am truly speaking from personal experience. The Apostle Paul (formerly Saul of Tarsus who studied under Gamaliel and persecuted Christians) said "This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief."  

I can identify because I was going in the wrong direction without a care until one day (like Saul turned Paul - Acts Chapter 9), God mercifully began my 180 degree turn.  I would be dishonest if I said it's been a breeze, but that's the point... with continuous prayer (petitioning God) and reading the Bible (hearing the word of God) - God has shown Himself gracious and faithful (much like a Father / Mother helping his/her child)... and one knows when one is helped.

Personally? No interest in peddling anything, but like a referee I just call it like it is and move on. 

(June 14, 2021 at 6:15 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(June 13, 2021 at 3:19 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: Notice the word says those who were about to literally execute the woman became "convicted by their conscience" and left one by one.

But that's the thing: the law is the law, it doesn't matter what their conscience says. That's why I compared it with a convict on the electric chair about to be executed, but they don't do it because of their conscience or anything else that is outside the law system.

Theoretically true, but in this case the Lord Jesus came as a fulfillment of the law - "in the volume of the book it is written of Me" - He declares. Essentially, He (having the authority to do so) set the record straight, despite their coded laws previously given.  Illustratively, even our own laws change - via a number of avenues, including legislative action and case law via judges. 

Rather than judgment - mercy.  Rather than an "eye for an eye" - "turn the other cheek". Rather than the symbol of animal sacrifices - the actual substitutionary, personal sacrifice of the Christ. 

One pertinent example is when the Pharisees attempted to indict His disciples for plucking heads of grain on the Sabbath saying, "Look, why do they do what is not lawful on the Sabbath?” to which Jesus responded in part "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.” (Mark 2:23-28)

There were many other instances when they tried to use the law to trap and thus persecute the Christ - which they eventually believe they did, but He says regarding His resulting crucifixion - "No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father." (John 10:18)
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Adulterous woman - by Fake Messiah - June 12, 2021 at 12:15 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 12, 2021 at 12:19 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Foxaèr - June 12, 2021 at 12:21 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 12, 2021 at 12:50 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by GUBU - June 14, 2021 at 7:27 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by no one - June 12, 2021 at 1:17 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by zebo-the-fat - June 12, 2021 at 2:12 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by no one - June 12, 2021 at 3:10 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Mercyvessel - June 13, 2021 at 3:19 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Fake Messiah - June 14, 2021 at 6:15 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by vulcanlogician - June 16, 2021 at 6:27 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 13, 2021 at 3:36 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Mercyvessel - June 13, 2021 at 3:52 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 13, 2021 at 6:27 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Mercyvessel - June 16, 2021 at 5:10 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Fake Messiah - June 16, 2021 at 1:44 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 16, 2021 at 5:01 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Fake Messiah - June 17, 2021 at 12:05 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 17, 2021 at 11:20 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Fake Messiah - June 17, 2021 at 11:32 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 17, 2021 at 2:37 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by HappySkeptic - June 17, 2021 at 3:58 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 18, 2021 at 1:12 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Fake Messiah - June 18, 2021 at 2:43 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 18, 2021 at 10:59 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Mister Agenda - June 14, 2021 at 12:07 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by no one - June 14, 2021 at 12:10 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 14, 2021 at 8:44 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 14, 2021 at 11:45 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 16, 2021 at 1:10 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Valkyrie - June 17, 2021 at 9:27 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2021 at 9:39 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Nay_Sayer - June 18, 2021 at 11:07 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Fake Messiah - June 18, 2021 at 11:58 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 18, 2021 at 12:04 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 18, 2021 at 2:15 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Angrboda - June 18, 2021 at 2:27 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 21, 2021 at 12:21 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by no one - June 18, 2021 at 1:39 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 18, 2021 at 6:22 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 21, 2021 at 12:34 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by vulcanlogician - June 21, 2021 at 1:22 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Mercyvessel - June 20, 2021 at 8:03 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by GUBU - June 24, 2021 at 3:22 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 20, 2021 at 11:55 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by vulcanlogician - June 21, 2021 at 12:22 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2021 at 1:58 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 21, 2021 at 4:14 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by vulcanlogician - June 24, 2021 at 2:07 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2021 at 4:42 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 23, 2021 at 12:05 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Angrboda - June 23, 2021 at 1:23 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 23, 2021 at 2:08 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by arewethereyet - June 23, 2021 at 12:07 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 23, 2021 at 1:15 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 23, 2021 at 1:36 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by arewethereyet - June 23, 2021 at 1:40 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Fake Messiah - June 23, 2021 at 1:55 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 23, 2021 at 2:00 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by arewethereyet - June 23, 2021 at 2:03 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 23, 2021 at 6:14 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Drich - June 25, 2021 at 1:13 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by HappySkeptic - June 23, 2021 at 8:12 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Rev. Rye - June 23, 2021 at 8:54 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Fake Messiah - June 24, 2021 at 1:10 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Huggy Bear - June 24, 2021 at 11:06 am
RE: Adulterous woman - by Fake Messiah - June 24, 2021 at 12:42 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Huggy Bear - June 24, 2021 at 10:03 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Rev. Rye - June 24, 2021 at 4:53 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 24, 2021 at 6:52 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Paleophyte - June 24, 2021 at 7:16 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 24, 2021 at 7:25 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Paleophyte - June 24, 2021 at 8:56 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Rev. Rye - June 24, 2021 at 9:26 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 24, 2021 at 11:21 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by Rev. Rye - June 24, 2021 at 11:34 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 24, 2021 at 11:41 pm
RE: Adulterous woman - by The Grand Nudger - June 25, 2021 at 4:21 pm

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