Benevolent Creator God?

[The Grand Nudger]

Of course I can be argued out of my beliefs. Why else would I be on an atheist forum explaining my reasons to believe..? But so far, all I can see is that you don't acknowledge the simple fact that holy books do contain correct stuff. In the case of the Qur'an, I am prepared to say it contains correct+possibly unfalsifiable stuff, is it some trick of the prophet to make sure he will always be right? Probably not, unfalsifiable doesn't imply false, after all.

I don't think that you're being honest with yourself, here, so you can't really be exact with me.  I know for a fact that pointing out the hilarious mistakes in magic book doesn't move you.  Again, we've had this conversation - I've seen how you handle it...and I think you might know how you'd handle as much...as well.

Who said anything about unfalsifiable?  Your magic book got shit demonstrably wrong.  That's not an issue of something being unfalsifiable, just false.

Sure, I understand that you think the Qur'an is filled with errors

Good. And knowing just that, you can know that your previous contention was false on it's face - even if you don't agree with my own position. Congratz!, No one will ever have too hear you say such a silly thing again....riiiight.....? In mere point of fact, I don't actually have to believe that your man god got anything right, by fairies or otherwise....let alone miraculously so.

but here, I am trying to focus on one specific example: the pharaoh's claim of divinity. The Qur'an clearly agrees with the Bible about the pharaoh's story, but then makes the imprudent move of mentioning details that could be falsified. If, for example, it turned out (after we decipherd the hieroglyphs) the egyptian pharaoh worshipped some super pharaoh or some deity -a completely plausible scenario, that would clearly invalidate some Qur'anic verses wouldn't it?

I already addressed this, pages ago. Egyptian potentates claim to divinity was not a secret...ever...to anyone. They asserted as much openly and advertised it with monumental construction. This isn't Big Mo getting things miraculously right.... it is, quite frankly, just you being a complete idiot. I hope I never again hear such an incompetent argument...for anything.

Why would Muhammad mention details that might turn out to be wrong later? If I were a prudent prophet who is trying to cover his lie, I would make unfalsifiable statements of ancient figures like the pharaoh, but that's not what we have.

And back to the assumption of God existing, I really would like to know where exactly I am wrong in this reasoning : a just God certainly won't leave humanity astray/without guidance => there has to be guidance => the Qur'an is a good candidate for this guidance.

Do you think a just God can logically leave humanity without any guidance ? that a God doesn't have to be just ..? or simply there are other candidates than the Qur'an ??

Why would a nut be a nut?  

Because he was a nut.  Who cares?  You dont actually care that magic book gets shit wrong and when it's pointed out to you.... you will search for some reason why wrong is right.

It's pointless and insulting to contend otherwise. You're already winding that bullshit up, up above. You know I have no patience for it. I wont treat you like a child to whom the truth cant be spoken just because it makes you scrunch up your face, pound your fists, and say silly shit - ala this thread. Even if you don't respect yourself or your own beliefs enough to do better, I won't allow that this is your best work. There can be a god...who never wrote any books. It's not as if -you- think god was prodigious writer, either........

Try again? Or dont..because, if I hadn't made this clear enough, I've never had any trouble ruling out the gods. Not other peoples gods, or your borrowed jewish knockoff. It's fucking shameful that this is even a discussion. You, are wrong. Your magic book.is wrong. Your god is imaginary, and your religion is silly.