RE: Benevolent Creator God?
August 20, 2021 at 4:20 pm
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2021 at 4:27 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 20, 2021 at 4:13 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:That much isn't actually indisputable - but I can only tell you again that some people might explain that detecting the effect of something is very often how we detect just about anything. From the way that our senses work, to the way that our sensors work.(August 20, 2021 at 3:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Some people would tell you that a thing asserted to have absolutely no detectable effect, is a thing which doesn't do anything in this world.
A deity in itself is not detectable, this much is absolutely indisputable. But.. no detectable effects?
Quote:Let's take a row of thousands of dominoes in a really big room, X pushes the first domino and leaves the room. Dominoes just keep falling for hours, and investigator A enters the room some time after X left. Investigator A only observes the process unfold. Now, it's clear that it's impossible for A to detect X, but he can observe the effect of X and, through this effect -and a deductive argument, conclude that X very likely exists, somebody must have initiated the whole thing.If I walked into a room full of obsessively arranged dominoes, whether they'd fallen or not, I would tell you that I have very much detected the presence of a human being in that room.
Now, if your god is detectable in a similar way as this, then this would be the evidence you would need to provide to convince the evidence minded, and it obviously wouldn't be meaningless to request or present it - nor do you actually believe that god is undetectable.
You think, in short...that somebody must have initiated the whole thing, not just about dominoes, but about the cosmos, and for whatever reason you think that somebody is your god. I don't. But even if you climbed mount improbable and demonstrated all of that - we'd still be left with the question of it's benevolence, and questions regarding the sensibility of worship at all, let alone worship of that thing.
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