RE: Thomism: Then & Now
October 13, 2021 at 4:47 pm
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2021 at 5:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 13, 2021 at 2:34 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Here, I’d like to commend @emjay, for wanting to understand the 5W on their own terms. To me, it’s a bit arrogant to assume Aquinas was incoherent just because his ideas do not neatly translate into the familiar concepts of modern physics. IMO, trying to shoe-horn the metaphysics of the Summa into modern physics is like playing Go on a Chess board. Maybe you can do it, but the limitations of the board make any such game different from actual Go.
Who assumes as much? The five ways are incoherent because they're all non sequiturs.
That they also contain false premises and a self referentially false conclusion isn't why they're incoherent, but it is why they're wrong, in addition to incoherent.
as an addendum, we can't really lay all the blame for this on aquinas. The things he managed to get wrong he did so because those ideas he valued so much and wanted to synthesize with christianity were already wrong - but still highly useful as propagandistic tools of a religious institution.
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