(June 12, 2023 at 12:16 pm)h4ym4n Wrote:(June 12, 2023 at 11:57 am)R-Farmer Wrote: says who? Cancer is a corruption in our cells.. corruptions like when you make a photo copy of a copy of a copy of a copy..
God does not hand build us. in fact He has not created anyone or anything since day 6 of creation. Not even Jesus was hand built. God created man kind on day 6 and gave us the ability to reproduce. we are all reproductions of what God crated, and over time we are starting to degenerate.
My lines are drawn for me scripturally. If God did in fact 'bless people with cancer' then it would be something I would have to reconcile with my beliefs. As it is however the only entity 'blessing/targeting people' personal afflictions is Satan in the book of Job, where again God removes a shield from around one of his people and Sin and Satan plague an individual simply because he wanted to win a bet.
we live in a world that was forged and directly benefited from firebombing civilians (The Old, women, Children, hospitals etc) literally living in wood and paper houses. it is suspected that tens of thousands of people died in the firebombing campaign of Tokyo over 2 nights... How can anyone alive today who lives and benefits from living in the west be critical of God destroying his enemy with sulfur when we used napalm to do the very same thing, but to tens of thousands time more than what God did??
Or maybe it is like Jesus says in the book of Luke Where this world is not apart of God's immediate Kingdom and His will is not done here on Earth as it is in Heaven. Or like the almost 30 other verses in the Bible says this world is satan's domain, it is currently His kingdom. As satan is not like the antagonist of greek or roman mythology and rules the under world. satan in the Bible is the master of this world and everyone born to this world till we elect to be redeemed and serve God.
I hate to rock your arm chair or theory.As My Grandmother died of it on my mother side with intestinal cancer. (she had only been to the doctor 2 times in her 98 years. Once after a car accident where she was impaled on the gear shift lever, and for abdominal pain. This cancer killed her 1 week after she was admitted. My dad had it in his nose. my mother just completed 3 months of radiation in December for her pallet and optic nerve in her right eye.
I went in for a blood test and urine test some years back. and I showed blood in the urine and high white cell count 16K. Normal being between 4k and 10k. So this set off a series of specialists. my first urologist/hematologists. was very eager to perform as many procedures as possible and set me up for the gambit. at the end He concluded that I had "98% chance of None Hodgkins lymphoma." and wanted to start treatment asap.. so I prayed and more or less turned it all over to God. a "your will be done" situation. We sought a second opinion which included a DNA cancer test (like Angelina Jolie got) and a bone marrow biopsy and several more cat scans. They said in addition to the high white cell count I either did or did not have some protein or maybe it was some marker I was supposed to have \or not.. I don't remember now. but the point was that they said If I had this brand of lymphoma it was early enough to wait. to see where it will come up and target that. verses what the first guy wanted to do which was cook me with radiation and kemo. So over the next 5 years I was poke prodded scanned every 3 to 6 months. Turns out My white cell count is not normal/doesnt fall in the normal range.
So for that 5 years I was in limbo not knowing if I had cancer or not. Either way I decided it would not matter one way or the other I was going to live my life to the best of my ability
“Not even Jesus was hand built”
When did god invent jesus?
2000 years ago?
Adam was literally 'hand built' by God. form out of the dust of the earth. I'm saying no one else including Jesus was made that way. Jesus was born just like everyone else. a result of the reproductive process. So again not created by god but born through the process of reproduction making him essentially a copy of what God created.
