Christians

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Sure they fulfill different roles and purposes but where does it say they operate completely independently? I think that's an oversimplification.

Try reading the three "Synoptic" Gospels (Matt, Mark, Luke) just by themselves without reading John.

You will be hard pressed to come up with any scriptural justification for the belief that Jesus is God. The Jesus of the earliest Gospels was a being inferior to, independent of and subordinate to Yahweh. Consider:

Jesus speaks of Yahweh in the 3rd person.
Jesus prays to Yahweh in the 2nd person.
Jesus makes it clear, not his will but "thy" will be done, speaking to Yahweh.
Jesus claims that he doesn't know what the Father alone knows (the hour of his second coming).
A booming voice speaks to Jesus in the second person.
A booming voice speaks of Jesus in the third person.
Jesus asks why Yahweh had forsaken him on the cross.

Seems like independent operation to me.

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I disagree my friend. Both the New and Old Testament are filled with Trinitarian language and concepts. Even the Gospel of Matthew establishes the fact that Jesus was eternal in the 28th Chapter, "20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” The Trinity is a beautiful and necessary Christian Dogma that is arrived at systematically, by looking at scripture as a whole, not just one verse, passage, or book.

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It is as clear as mud, which is why so many Christians argue over the one vs three, multiple personality divinity.

And there is zero evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. Elvis has as much. Rabid fans will see what they want whenever they want.

Kool aid drinkers, all.

Actually the trinity is a concept that nearly all Christian denominations are united on.
There are eye witness accounts of Jesus after His death according to the historian Luke, so to say there is zero evidence is being disingenuous. You should probably rephrase that to say, "There isn't any evidence I accept for Jesus' resurrection."

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When I make bold assertions I am asked to provide evidence to support them, I'd expect you to do the same.

AS you cannot demonstrate that there are any fucking gods, Waldork, that really limits your choices. Religion ( ALL religion.....even yours) are human inventions. The reason for that is simple. God only exists in your imagination.

When you can demonstrate that your god is not merely a figment of your limited imagination then I will consider your position. Not before.

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Yeah I figured you wouldn't back your claim up with any actual evidence Min.



It is not my job to substantiate your imaginary friend, asswipe. Show he exists or continue to be treated like a fool. Your choice.